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Incubation Cheat Sheet

 

 

 

 

ChooksChick's

Henthusiasts' Still-Air Styrofoam Incubation Cheat-Sheet

 

***The first, most important rule is: get the temp right with an empty incubator, and make sure it's stable for 48 hours- without the plugs, without you touching it- BEFORE you add eggs.***

This is the hardest part, and if you can be good and do it, you have a much better shot at success. Do it before you order eggs, even. That gives you time to get it perfect.


Use 3 (yes, 3!) of the sealed-in-glass aquarium thermometers from Wally World ($1.70 each, I always have at least a dozen on hand for my 6 incubators).

Basic thermometer

They have a little green suction cup- I leave it on and move it to the weighted end for one thermometer, the top end on another and the middle for the third. This makes them a slight bit different in elevation in the incubator as the turner moves, so you can average them for the true temp.

 

Place them where it will be easy to read from the windows, and turn them in the suction cup so they're angled correctly to read the red line through your windows. They need to be on the turner, wedged between eggs so you can read what the center of the egg is, internally.

 

This is the only reliable way, as the thermometers that come with the incubators on cardboard change as humidity changes, and they tell you the eggs' top temperature or the temp on the floor! Took forever to figure out my incubator wasn't really spiking as badly as the thermometer said, but that the temp spikes were due to the cardboard shrinking and swelling from humidity! 

 

 

***Recently it has come to my attention that some folks are having issues with these thermometers losing accuracy. I have not experienced this, but thought I ought to post a valuable bit of info to ascertain whether you have accuracy or not in YOUR thermometers.

 

BYC user Jessshan8 posted this regarding evaluating your thermometer:

 

 

 

Quote:

►Fill an insulated  cup with crushed ice and water.


►The cup  must have enough crushed ice  to provide an environment of 32°F, so you may need to pack more ice into the cup  during the process.

► When the mixture of the water has stabilized in about four or five minutes, insert the thermometer to be calibrated to the appropriate immersion depth.

►Be sure to hold the stem of the instrument away from the bottom and sides of the container (preferably one inch) to avoid error.

 

► If your thermometer is not accurate within +/- 2°F of 32°F., adjust the thermometer accordingly. The ice point method permits calibration to within 0.1°F.

 

 

Thermometers in-between eggs


When you put eggs in your LG, it will take hours to get stable again- ignore it!!! Walk away for a day!!! 

 

The temp will drop when you first add eggs. Don't adjust it at all.

 

After 2 days with eggs, you can put a plug in to go up a degree or two. You can add another plug if you need to.

 

If you're over 101.5*F 48 hours after you add eggs, you can turn the thing down A HAIR.

 

That's all. Don't adjust again for a day- be patient.

 

**Don't dismiss this advice!!**

 

You can go up a degree or two per plug you add at this point, too.

 

 

 

  • Try not to use the knob to adjust.
  • Being a bit off in the beginning as it takes your eggs up to temperature internally is less destructive than yo-yo adjustments.
  • Stability is only accomplished with real patience.

 


AFTER the first 2 days, during which the eggs are being brought up to temp:

  • If the temp isn't too hot- like 102* consistently for 2 hours, I don't turn it down. 
  • If it's not below 98* consistently for 2+ hours, I don't turn it up. I add a plug and wait 24 hours. I haven't adjusted my thermostats in 6+ months. 



You can get it stable. My incubators are always full. **So are my brooders.**

 

Ignore humidity until day 18. Do I need to repeat that? No water, no worries. Ignore it completely. The only thing you need to do is candle at days 7, 14, and 18 to compare the air cell size with recommended ratios of KNOWN GOOD air cell development. This is a good image for reference. Note that if shipped, your eggs may have a wonky air cell and the shape of the line may differ substantially. This isn't important. Focus on the amount of air versus the amount of chick.

 

 

 

Incidentally, a 'hygrometer' is used for measuring the humidity of an environment. A 'hydrometer' is different and measures the density of a liquid. These are read by the depth they float or sink in a body of liquid, and thus the 'line' of the surface of the liquid marks a number on the device. Most often, hydrometers are used by saltwater aquarium enthusiasts to determine the amount of salt in their water to ensure it isn't too saline or not saline enough. 

 

Note: I don't increase the humidity until one egg pips- usually day 19. That being said, for days 19, 20, and 21 (after someone pips), roll up paper towels and stuff them in the water channels, then fill the channels. Lay another half paper towel across the wire. I use paper towels because they're disposable, so they won't harbor bacteria, and they increase the surface area of the evaporative substrate while wicking moisture up through the channels from the paper towels swelling up out of them. You'll then have BOTH sides of the paper towel exposed on the wire, plus the surface of the ones rolled up in the channels, which swell to rise over the channels themselves. You'll easily hit adequate humidity if you follow my instructions. It may even fog up. It's okay, as it will settle down, and since you used no water previously, the high humidity will not pose a threat, as they have already evaporated the majority of the egg moisture- no drownings! 

 

Put the eggs on the now damp paper towel which will have absorbed water from the paper towels poking up out of the water channels, and make sure the whole lot stays moist for 3 days while in hatch mode. NOT SOAKING, mind you, but some portion of the paper towel ought to be moist. Not even necessarily all of it.

 

If you must add water (which isn't likely) use tubing through the holes on the top of the incubator or open a window to do it. Don't open the lid, if you can help it. I do go in through a window sometimes on the LG. Actually, I do a lot!! I'm not very good about that particular discipline. I have often used a small funnel to add a bit of H2O at a time through a vent hole, just letting it fall on the paper towel on the wire. Sometimes the eggs get dribbled on- it doesn't matter, so long as you use lukewarm water.


I've hatched hundreds or thousands of eggs this way. 

 

*****YOU MUST GET THE INCUBATOR STABLE BEFORE YOU ADD EGGS.*****
 


ACK!! One more thing. If you only have one machine, it's best to use something like egg cartons to hatch them, with the bottom cut out of each little cup for air movement. Otherwise, when you take out the turner the eggs are laying so much lower than they were in the turner that the temps are no longer appropriate and they're way too cold.  This is important!

 

 

Even a tiny bit of difference in height can mean a big difference in yolk-temp so you might wipe them out in the last 3 days if you don't use a carton or prop up the wire. You can mark the turner edge on the styrofoam and use that line to help you position the wire on shallow bowls or compote cups to get the middle of the eggs at the same height they were for the first 18 days. Put the wire back in and you're good to go. Egg cartons are easier. This doesn't affect hatchability, but you won't want the paper towel on the wire AND cardboard cartons, as this will be too humid. Do use the paper towels if you use styrofoam egg cartons. I have also used saucers upside-down and put the wire on those with little silverware baskets from the dollar store to hatch the at the right level. This also keeps them sorted by breed when I have multiple similar-looking breeds hatching. 


If you have had both plugs out the whole time, you might be able to get the right temp for them lying on the floor by just plugging both holes, but that's an unknown factor until you've tried it, and you don't want to find out with eggs that are about to hatch. I use a separate machine as the hatcher to avoid this conundrum when I can.

 

Hope it makes sense! Let me know if you have any questions. ChooksChick at gmail dot com.

 

I'm adding this Q & A section for frequently asked questions. Let me know if there's something you'd like to see here.

 

Q. Can you describe your feelings on the humidity portion and why you suggest no water at all?

 

A. The method I describe is also referred to as 'dry incubation' and it's the only sure way I know of to decrease the embryonic mass by enough in the first 2 1/2 weeks to make the baby small enough to negotiate getting in the right position to pip properly. Many times if there isn't enough evaporation, the chick can't get into the right position to get enough leverage to pip and they never make it out. The chick is just too big.
If there's substantial evaporation, this seems to be less of a problem. You do need to have adequate humidity for the chick to not get glued in, however, so you increase the humidity to prevent the remaining moisture from dying as the chick opens the shell with first the pip and then the zip. That's why it's important to watch the humidity at the end. There's a whole host of various opinions about how to incubate, but this has worked for me a zillion times and I encourage folks to at least read it, even if they choose another method, just to get some ideas about what they observe and have a bit of background so they can make educated decisions as they go through their chosen method the first time.

 

Q. Will this work on a forced-air incubator?

 

A. Yes, many have used it on a forced air incubator, but I suggest you don't let the humidity dip below 20% for a prolonged duration, adding a tad of water through a straw if it's that low for more than 24 hours. I also advocate using the paper towels on the last three days STRONGLY, because anytime a pip is large but the pipper is slow, gluing can occur more easily with the fan and air movement.

If you can turn off the fan for the lockdown period, that would be ideal.

 

Comparison of the air cell at days 7, 14 and 18 will better allow you to predict whether you need to add water in your forced-air incubator or not.

 

 

 

 

Happy hatching!!

 

 

 

Comments (18)

I so wish I would have seen this article about 100 dead chicks ago! I kept blaming it on my stryrofoam incubators when all along it was the thermometers! I've fried them, froze them, and drowned them...NO MORE! Thank you so much for this info...Melody in Indiana
What do you use in your hatcher to hatch them in or on to prevent the temperature difference??
What about if you dont use an egg turner? couldn't/wouldn't it be easier to place eggs in the egg cartons as you described fro lockdown and just rotate the incubator by propping one corner 4x a day instead of opening the bator to turn the eggs? Have you tried this?
What do you suggest for someone such as me that does not have a turner?
does a dry hatch work with guinea eggs..everything I have seen says 50-60% humidity for guineas.
I agree using the cartons and tilting the entire incubator is a good way to go without a turner, but as much as some folks swear by using cartons for upright hatches, others warn against them. I prefer egg lying down, if possible, so I have taken to using the little plastic silverware bins from the dollar store and putting my eggs in them, tilting the entire incubator, and leaving them to hatch.
Dry hatch works for guinea, pea, duck and goose eggs- the caveat is you MUST compare the air cell on days 7, 14 and 18 to be certain you aren't evaporating too much moisture. Adjust accordingly if the air cell is too large or too small.
I cannot tell you how interesting this was to read....I'm dreading the next week and a half only because I'm almost certain the hatch won't be good. may just try the dry method as you're hatches, history and help are wonderful! Thanks so much
Not only wasn't it good, I had to pitch all my beautiful eggs... such a sad night here. I'm going to try the dry method and hopefully follow it to the letter. I so wanted these lovelies. My Mommy bone is sore.
I just put my third batch of eggs in the incubator.....I've had two completely unsuccessful ones. I'm following these rules. Man oh man I hope something hatches this time!!!! Jandrusrn.....I'm sorry to read about yours. I've been there too lately. Maybe we both can learn to do this.
Really learning a lot about this- (unfortunately a little too late) just had a large chick drown (didn't turn), and I've got 11 eggs on day 16 and their air cells are WAY too small. Uggghhhh-- I need a drastic humidity reducer:( I'm hoping for the best. Their air cells are about the size of day 7 -- should I keep them air cell up in a carton for hatching? Will that give them the best chance of getting air? Thanks! This post is great!
Bless you for this info.
I have been having a problem with my Birchen Marans egg hatching. Last hatch all other breeds hatched 100% but the marans 4/14. this hatch not all eggs hatched but the marans too are not hatching well.
an examination of eggs not hatched last time showed whole chicks. Most did not pip at all. Eggs were laid on floor of incu. This time in egg cartons.
What could be the problem with the marans eggs?
rancher hicks, I would be interested in knowing someone's response to your questions as well regarding the Marans' eggs. I had that same issue for my last hatch which was my first hatch ever, btw. After I explained my hatch results with a more experienced hatcher person, they told me that Marans' eggs take longer to hatch than other chicken breeds, so I should have left them in the incubator, and to candle them to look for movement or an internal pip. Also, to listen for peeping in them. I think I gave up to early on those Marans eggs. :(
I'm running the incu with a lower humidity this time 23-25% per advice. We shall see. I too gave up early when first starting to hatch. I've since learned to give them a couple of more days.
I wish you well,
Rancher
I've heard some Maran folks say they do a dry hatch. Something to do with the dark color eggs and moisture retention. I had a poor performance with my first hatch last week. I did low humidity then put it up when I went into lock down. I had one hatch "on time" and three 24-36 hours later. I candled the rest very well and saw no movement and heard no pipping.
I'll try again becaus I love my Wheatens, but I do think they present some issues specific to the breed.
A friend recently hatched out two chicks but both died within days.
For you folks wanting help with dark eggs, I've tried to consolidate my hints into one page, with a pic. Go here: http://www.backyardchickens.com/a/hatching-dark-eggs
This is a great source of advice. I always had trouble with keeping the humidity stable and now I know to just leave it alone until the end. What a relief!
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