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#1 10/29/2009 2:20 pm

ducks4you
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From: East Central Illinois
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Coyotes-I TOLD you they were vicious!

Have you seen THIS post (on the Suffificient Self forum:)?
http://www.sufficientself.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3573
I' ve been on a thread about coyotes before here, and read several threads about coyotes.  Many people don't think that they are a serious threat to people, but I disagree, and the above linked article proves it.
Just FYI.


Matt 6:26. Look at the birds of the air, that they do not sow, neither do they reap, nor gather into barns and yet your heavenly father feeds them. And are you not worth much more than they?
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#2 10/29/2009 2:30 pm

Enchanted Sunrise Farms
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From: Fair Oaks, California
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Re: Coyotes-I TOLD you they were vicious!

Wow, that is so sad!


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#3 10/29/2009 2:38 pm

cassie
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Re: Coyotes-I TOLD you they were vicious!

If coyotes were a significant threat to people, I'd be dead.  So would everyone who lives here.  We have LOTS of coyotes.  We see them almost every day. Close. I don't know the circumstances of the attack.  I suspect they may have been starving.  Starvation makes all critters, including people, do outlandish things.  This is a tragedy, sure.  But considering all the coyotes there are and all the people there are, how often has anything like this happened? I have heard of them going after children, but I have NEVER heard of them going after an adult person before.


The obscure we understand eventually. 
The obvious takes a little longer.

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#4 10/29/2009 3:17 pm

ducks4you
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Re: Coyotes-I TOLD you they were vicious!

This was an "FYI" post, NOT an all-points-bulletin.  WE hear them every night in the fields behind us.  I am not afraid of being attacked, BUT, I am very aware of them, and we count our 4 cats every night, because they might be attacked by one.  I think they avoid our property because of the horses--I don't worry about THEM being attacked, either.  I half suspect her attackers may have been "Curs," 1/2 coyote-1/2 dog.  They aren't afraid of people.


Matt 6:26. Look at the birds of the air, that they do not sow, neither do they reap, nor gather into barns and yet your heavenly father feeds them. And are you not worth much more than they?
I'm with YOU, eaganchickens - N O   N A I S!!!

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#5 10/29/2009 3:19 pm

Rare Feathers Farm
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From: Pleasant Valley, (Okanogan) WA
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Re: Coyotes-I TOLD you they were vicious!

or maybe wolves? There are wolves here & in Alberta...so I am not sure if they weren't those or just feral dogs...


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#6 10/29/2009 3:40 pm

damselfish
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From: Southwest Missouri
Registered: 03/08/2008
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Re: Coyotes-I TOLD you they were vicious!

Very interesting.  I have become rather nonchalant about wandering around our property without a weapon, but I need to rethink my habits.

We hear the coyotes all around us on a regular basis.  Whether it was coyotes or half-breed dogs in this attack, or whatever it was, it's always a good reminder that Mother Nature's creatures are not always...ummm....looking out for our best interests, let's say.

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#7 10/29/2009 3:42 pm

Rare Feathers Farm
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Re: Coyotes-I TOLD you they were vicious!

Yeah...I ALWAYS have a knife on me...it's a good-sized Gerber & I take the dogs with me all of the time...which is better than nothing! I'm scared of cougars, though more than coyotes. Our dogs kill coyotes all the time...but the cougars....barnie


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#8 10/29/2009 6:56 pm

newchickmom09
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Re: Coyotes-I TOLD you they were vicious!

I bet those coyotes had rabies. That is the only way that a coyote will come close to you around here. And for them to attack and kill that poor girl something had to be wrong with them like others have said.

Great reminder that sometimes we aren't always at the top of the food chain.


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#9 10/29/2009 7:10 pm

citrusdreams
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Registered: 05/04/2009
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Re: Coyotes-I TOLD you they were vicious!

Some of you guys are forgetting that sometimes predators are different from region to region, and it probably has to do with food supply.

I've heard of coyotes attacking livestock like horses and cattle, but I've never heard of them doing it here where I live, and everyone in my area says they've never lost a horse or cattle to coyotes. There was a warning on the news last year about this time about buzzards attacking calves and kids. However, I've never had one attack and don't know of any who has either. But when they can't find any food, they'll attack something they can get a hold of.

Another example is deer. In the south they're more like prehistoric baby deer (sarcastic). They remind me (when I exaggerate) of the ones in the museum that are as small as a large dog. But in the north, like Illinois, they're big like moose. Yes, I'm exaggerating about how small the deer are here, but I'm not exaggerating about the ones in the north. Them are hearty for sure! Again, probably the food supply. In Illinois, you actually have to HUNT deer. In Tennessee, you just have to drive around until you see one because there are so many. That tends to thin out their grazing availablility.

It wouldn't surprise me that coyotes attacked a human, especially if they're food supply is lacking. Like some of you, I hear them nightly. My neighbors have seen them in their driveway in the middle of the day. I (knock on wood) don't have any problems from them, but I'd bet that would change if they were hungry ehough.

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#10 10/29/2009 7:18 pm

CMV
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From: New Hampshire
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Re: Coyotes-I TOLD you they were vicious!

newchickmom09 wrote:

...I bet those coyotes had rabies. That is the only way that a coyote will come close to you around here. And for them to attack and kill that poor girl something had to be wrong with them like others have said...

Agree.  There is more to this story than is being publicized.  An unprovoked, fatal attack on a human by a coyote is almost unheard of.  And an attack on a human adult IS unheard of before now.

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