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#1 07/20/2008 9:35 am

SeaChick
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Is this early BUMBLEFOOT? (pics) If so... how to treat at this stage?

Our favorite hen, Olympia, is having a rough time right now!!

Not only are we integrating the new pullets (stressful to all) but she is broody for the first time, and we're trying to "break" her. She is very confused, poor thing!!

Now this. It looks to me like the pics I have seen of bumble foot, although there does not seem to be any swelling. She does not seem to be in any pain.


What do you think? Can it clear up on its own or is treatment necessary? I am so hesitant to stress her more. I know the treatment of more extreme cases is to soak, pick off the scab, lance (or squeeze?) the pus out (although there does not seem to be swelling yet), wrap and isolate the bird. That seems so stressful.

Advice????

Worse foot:
http://www.sailzora.com/DSC01575.JPG

Other foot:
http://www.sailzora.com/DSC01577.JPG

Both feet:
http://www.sailzora.com/DSC01578.JPG


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#2 07/20/2008 12:31 pm

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Re: Is this early BUMBLEFOOT? (pics) If so... how to treat at this stage?

Also, she is not limping at all....


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#3 07/20/2008 1:28 pm

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Re: Is this early BUMBLEFOOT? (pics) If so... how to treat at this stage?

I'd never heard of bumblefoot until about a week ago so I googled it to find out what it is (new chicken owner).  YAY!  Something else to worry about!

OK, now seriously:

If I were you I'd look it up on google (unless you get a better response here) and try to clean it out.  I found info on google, though a search on BYC would likely give as good or better info.

If there is pus, never ever "squeeze".  If there's not a clear route for the pus to clear, you can force it farther into the tissue and create a bigger problem.

Good luck & keep us posted!


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#4 07/20/2008 1:35 pm

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Re: Is this early BUMBLEFOOT? (pics) If so... how to treat at this stage?

LOOKS OK TO ME


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#5 07/20/2008 2:03 pm

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Re: Is this early BUMBLEFOOT? (pics) If so... how to treat at this stage?

The feet look fine to me aswell.


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#6 07/20/2008 2:27 pm

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Re: Is this early BUMBLEFOOT? (pics) If so... how to treat at this stage?

If it's a scab, it's probably bumblefoot. This is one of my hens, Violet, who fought it for a year of her life. Note that her pad is swollen. That is later stages, and at first there may be not any appreciable swelling.
http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h49/ClutchHutch/DCP_5247.jpg

Last edited by speckledhen (07/20/2008 2:28 pm)


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#7 07/20/2008 3:18 pm

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Re: Is this early BUMBLEFOOT? (pics) If so... how to treat at this stage?

Well, the "worse" foot is definitely a scab with a bit of thickness to it. I could sort of catch the edge with my fingernail (although I did not pull it). The other foot has just a slight, thin scabby area.

So what do I do?

Can anyone think what else it might be if not Bumblefoot?

Should I soak the feet and try to pry off the scab or is that not a good idea if I'm not all prepared to bandage her feet and isolate her? (And as noted I'm hesitant to stress her with isolation since she's all freaky with her first broody spell and we're trying to "break" the broodiness by keeping her off the nest. she is really confused, poor thing!!)


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#8 07/20/2008 3:23 pm

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Re: Is this early BUMBLEFOOT? (pics) If so... how to treat at this stage?

Oh, I just found a really interesting article about Bumblefoot by First State Veterinary Supply!!

Here: http://www.firststatevetsupply.com/poultry-health/bumblefoot.html


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#9 07/20/2008 3:54 pm

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Re: Is this early BUMBLEFOOT? (pics) If so... how to treat at this stage?

That's a good article. I happen to live in the woods, so lots of sharp rocks and old burn piles from the former owner. No matter what I do in the coop and pen, they free range and get bumblefoot over and over, at least the heavier ones do. All the antibiotics he mentions at the end of the article, my Violet was on, one after the other, for a year. I just quit using them entirely for it, except when my very heavy Meg got it in both feet. Do follow his instructions and most will do well.


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#10 07/20/2008 4:14 pm

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Re: Is this early BUMBLEFOOT? (pics) If so... how to treat at this stage?

SeaChick wrote:

Oh, I just found a really interesting article about Bumblefoot by First State Veterinary Supply!!

Here: http://www.firststatevetsupply.com/poultry-health/bumblefoot.html

Thank you for that article, super one at that. I was just curious what it was, so reading the article finding your post and yippie, I now have something more to worry about too...lol.
Good luck to those with foot problems human, hen and beasts!


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