Don't Vaccinate Your Chicks!

Table4Six
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Cons: 11 of my 35 chicks from McMurray so far have died!!

We received an order of 35 chicks from Murray McMurray on Monday, April 30. Our four children were so excited!  The White Crested Black Polish chick was dead on arrival, but the rest seemed healthy.  We are first time chicken owners, so we had all the chicks vaccinated for Marek's disease and coccidiosis as we thought that would ensure our chicks would be as healthy as possible.  We followed the instructions for brooding chicks to the letter, having two red heat lamps, corn cob litter inside an 18" cardboard draft shield, two thermometers -- one under the lamps and one to the side for room temperature.  We have two waterers and two 18" feed trays.  The chicks received Gro Gel during their first day, and Quik Chik electrolytes in the water until we used up the packet.  All went well until Saturday morning, five days after the chicks arrived, when we found the Silver Laced Polish chick dead.  One of our two White Langshans died later that morning, while the second died the next day.  We have been losing one to two a day ever since, with the blessed occasional day without a death.  My children are devastated; it seems all their favorites with the most personality are the ones we lose.  McMurray said they would refund our losses, which is nice; I haven't asked for refunds for the latest three, but we really wanted chickens, not death on a daily basis.  After a week of deaths, McMurray finally recommended that we give the chicks Duramycin, "to help the chicks recover from the stress of shipping."  Being new chick owners, we aren't positive what is going on, but we feel that the live coccidiosis vaccination has infected our flock, and at this rate, we'll be lucky to have any grow to maturity.  The deaths continue even now.  We found our Buff Laced Polish chick suddenly dead in the brooder yesterday; it seemed strong and healthy just that morning.  Then today, the White-Faced Black Spanish chick was dead; she was a favorite, because any time the kids put a hand in the brooder she hopped on wanting to be held and hand fed.  It's been a very depressing experience so far!  

 

In addition to the ones I mentioned, we have lost our Silver Laced Wyandotte pullet, Partridge Cochin pullet, White Polish pullet, Buff Cochin pullet and Blue Andalusian pullet.  The Lakenvelder and the Silver Laced Dorking pullets are hunched under the lamp with their eyes closed now.  That's the way most have looked the day before they die, except for those we just suddenly found dead with no apparent symptoms. Such a different experience than we hoped to have!!

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Oh, what a horrible experience! I have kids also and we had 2 chicks (out of 5) that we received from a different hatchery than yours. They arrived healthy and alert but one died 3 days after receiving them, and the other died on the 4th day. We had them vaccinated for Marek's, but I assume that the deaths were due to either an environmental issue, or maybe they were weak to begin with. This chicken stuff is harder than I thought it would be!
I recommend ordering from mypetchicken.com. I have no experience with mcmurray, but I had excellent experience with mypetchicken.
I am so very sorry for your losses and what your familyis going through...I can only imagine.
I type this with some trepidation, but I think it needs to be said. When you say it is the chicks that are the favorites that are dying, it makes me wonder if too much handling might have something to do with it. Very young chicks can't take much handling -- it is stressful for them. I would back off on the handling and see what happens. I believe the section on BYC that tells how to socialize chicks says not to handle them at all for the first week. And be careful to wash hands before and after handling. Good luck and I hope things get better!
A little info on Murray McMurray. I received my chick a week ago (27 Jan 13). I ordered 47 total chicks of various breeds. I even went as far as to call my main post office hub and ask them to call me and I would pick them up whenever they got there. I received the call at 11:00pm on a Sunday. I drove the 2 hours round trip to get them faster to reduce the stress....if I had waited to get them from my local post office...who knows how many more would have died. 2 of the chicks were DOA in the box when I opened it. Later that day 3 more died. And the next day 3 more died. 1 day after that I only lost 1. Also, I ordered 4 Golden laced Wyandotte's...they didn't ship them to me. Their was a sticker on the inside of the box that said they said they ran out. Now keep in mind I ordered these chicks 3 months in advance. So there's no excuse for not sending them.

OK, now I have 3 chicks with crossed beaks and 1 with an eye problem. I will probably cull them tomorrow.

I would suggest trying to find a local hatchery around you and buy them from there. I am not happy at all with McMurray. Although their people were very nice on the phone each time I called...I believe their chicks are sub-standard. Be prepared to lose a 1/4 of them due to death or sub standard breeding.

I'm just sayin....lol
First thing to do when you see ANY chick struggling.
1) remove that chick and isolate it.
2) do not handle or play with any of the other chicks
3) actively watch them for several hours to see if they are actually eating the food and drinking the water.
4) more often than not, they dont know how to drink the water or your container looks different and will die of dehydration. They will also refuse to eat your food you're giving to them. ESPECIALLY IF IT'S MEDICATED OR HAS VITAMINS.

So when you first get a batch of chicks, watch them for 24 hours. dont handle them. make sure they are eating and drinking. If they start to get sick, start isolating them and put them on antibiotics immediately. Observe what is wrong with them. You should notice if there's something off with them.

:/ this is coming from someone who had to get shipments of chickens /every/ year for our FFA program in highschool. I cant believe how many times people just put the chicks in the brooder and leave them alone and not show them where the food or water is.

We once lost a whole entire shipment because the idiot who put the water in there put it in a container too high for them to drink out of.