Originally Posted by hellbender
Just for the hell of it...these are 'classic' pure English Shepherds. Not bastardized or watered down with any other "herding stock'' that could make them very difficult to brake off chickens...Sheep are just a bit tougher than chickens.
Fools rush in where angels fear to tread. Just saying...... My family owned English Shepherds, before me, going back at least 70+ years. We've had black and white before me and my childhood. I thought they were border collies except my parents called them "farm collies" and my cousins and uncle used them for hunting. Never knew a border collie who was good at that. We've had mahogheny and sable and white. Knowing the history I wouldn't willingly choose a black and tan but a good dog can't be a bad color.
During, I believe it was the 1950's Tom Stodghill wanted the English Shepherd to be recognized by AKC and toward that end he worked. He felt the breed would have a better chance if they became cookie cutter dogs, more alike, including appearance, rather than the brilliant dogs they are that can do a myriad of jobs. He wanted one color and one color only. (Shudderiing)
Most died in the wool ES lovers thank their lucky stars he didn't succeed, and to this day the ES remains unrecognized by AKC. Many ES owners, when asked what their dogs are will say Farm Collie, or farm shepherd or herding dog.
There are several organizations the ES can be registered in, but some people are pulling their UKC registrations because they don't want their dogs shown and UKC seems to be pushing for that.
A great breed that has remained unspoiled over the years and with an interesting history.