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KsKingBee, since I have had my big pen of Purples,I have yet to hatch out one 100% b/s purple,,be it a hen or a peacock. I got some over the top purples with a lot of white in them this year and today when I moved them to another pen I have a very nice purple pied,with white flights,that still has barring,,so maybe it will turn out to be a male but still not a b/s. My purples that do have the rusty brown in them is darker than your center one above,,so maybe it is indeed a cameo pied,or cameo b/s. White flights and throat patch??

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Bronze, Opal B/S, Midnight B/S, Purple B/S. Black Shoulder Silver Pied ,Cameo w/e, Peach, India Blue, Taupe, Charcoal

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KsKingBee, since I have had my big pen of Purples,I have yet to hatch out one 100% b/s purple,,be it a hen or a peacock. I got some over the top purples with a lot of white in them this year and today when I moved them to another pen I have a very nice purple pied,with white flights,that still has barring,,so maybe it will turn out to be a male but still not a b/s. My purples that do have the rusty brown in them is darker than your center one above,,so maybe it is indeed a cameo pied,or cameo b/s. White flights and throat patch??

 

Can I get a Cameo BS out of a Purple BS cock and a Cameo hen?  I raised quite a few Purple BS cocks and hens this year, even more chicks from the same pen that are IBBS split Purple cocks.

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Black Copper Marans, Easter Eggers, Mutts, ducks, and PEAFOWL!!!  India Blue, IB White Eye, IB Pied WE split Cameo, IB Silver Pied, IBBS, IBBS split Cameo, IBBS Pied, IBBS WE, Cameo, CBS (Oaten), Cameo Pied, CPWE, CSP, and Purple Black Shoulder. African Gray Parrots, a bunch of those dang guineas.  Oh, and honeybees, around 200 hives.  And two Great Pyrenees puppies.

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Black Copper Marans, Easter Eggers, Mutts, ducks, and PEAFOWL!!!  India Blue, IB White Eye, IB Pied WE split Cameo, IB Silver Pied, IBBS, IBBS split Cameo, IBBS Pied, IBBS WE, Cameo, CBS (Oaten), Cameo Pied, CPWE, CSP, and Purple Black Shoulder. African Gray Parrots, a bunch of those dang guineas.  Oh, and honeybees, around 200 hives.  And two Great Pyrenees puppies.

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Can I get a Cameo BS out of a Purple BS cock and a Cameo hen?  I raised quite a few Purple BS cocks and hens this year, even more chicks from the same pen that are IBBS split Purple cocks.

No not in the first generation.  First generation would be all Purple hens split to BS and IB cocks split to Cameo and Purple and split to BS.  In the following generation breeding brothers to sisters you would get 50% Cameo hens of which 25% would be BS.  You still would not get Cameo BS cocks.  You could get them in the next generation using second generation cocks and third generation hens.  So four years from next spring you might get a Cameo BS cock.

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No not in the first generation.  First generation would be all Purple hens split to BS and IB cocks split to Cameo and Purple and split to BS.  In the following generation breeding brothers to sisters you would get 50% Cameo hens of which 25% would be BS.  You still would not get Cameo BS cocks.  You could get them in the next generation using second generation cocks and third generation hens.  So four years from next spring you might get a Cameo BS cock.

 

Yeah, I didn't think so but Frenchy eluded to it from seeing the pic I posted so I had to ask.  With my Spaulding Purple BS cock I had a Spaulding Purple BS hen, (both from Deerman stock), an IBBS hen and two Cameo hens with unknown splits, one has white flights.  They made a LOT of IBBS cocks, Purple BS cocks and hens, and IB cocks, and Purple hens and only a couple of Purple cocks.  There are a couple of BS hen chicks that are real light orangy color as shown in the pic above, the one FBC thought may be Cameo BS or Cameo Pied.  I haven't seen any white expressed from that pen at all.

 

On an unrelated side note; is there any such thing as a Cameo Dark Pied?  or is it just called Cameo split White?

NPIP # KS-412

Black Copper Marans, Easter Eggers, Mutts, ducks, and PEAFOWL!!!  India Blue, IB White Eye, IB Pied WE split Cameo, IB Silver Pied, IBBS, IBBS split Cameo, IBBS Pied, IBBS WE, Cameo, CBS (Oaten), Cameo Pied, CPWE, CSP, and Purple Black Shoulder. African Gray Parrots, a bunch of those dang guineas.  Oh, and honeybees, around 200 hives.  And two Great Pyrenees puppies.

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NPIP # KS-412

Black Copper Marans, Easter Eggers, Mutts, ducks, and PEAFOWL!!!  India Blue, IB White Eye, IB Pied WE split Cameo, IB Silver Pied, IBBS, IBBS split Cameo, IBBS Pied, IBBS WE, Cameo, CBS (Oaten), Cameo Pied, CPWE, CSP, and Purple Black Shoulder. African Gray Parrots, a bunch of those dang guineas.  Oh, and honeybees, around 200 hives.  And two Great Pyrenees puppies.

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post #15 of 18

How do your guys breed these kinds of peafowls, in China I haven't seen such colored peafowls. Any ideas about their origins? Thanks, buddies.:highfive:

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  Chrysolophus,,all these colors and mutations started from basic India Blues,,except for the three diffrent Green species. There is way over 250 color and pattern combinations available here with more colors being added once in awhile.If you visit Bred Leggs peafowl website he explains how several diffrent colors and patterns emerged over the years. India Blue,Purple,Peach,Charcoal,Bronze,Opal,Cameo,Taupe, Sonja's Violetta, Midnights, White,Black Shoulder Silver Pieds,,and I'm sure a few I missed are scattered in flocks all across the USA. Many breeders concentrate on the colors they like the most. Some has flocks of mixed colors and patterns. Some of us selectively breed same colors together with a mix of patterns in adults to give variety within that one color of bird. In some cases such as the Black Shoulder Silver Pieds it would take you about 8 years from start to finish to get a breeding bird with the black shoulder pattern,pied, and two copies of white in it's genetics. 

 

 This year because of all the rain my hatching was very poor this year,,but I have some outstanding pieds in both purple and opal that I've never hatched before.I'm looking forward to breeding my own Opal white eyed males from these home hatched and bred chicks. Patience is a virtue in raising peafowl. I was very disappointed in some colors hatchrates this year but the chicks I now have is far above all my past breeding efforts. 


Edited by frenchblackcopper - 10/7/15 at 8:28pm

"Excuse me for working so hard but I must support the 12 milllion who are on Welfare"

 

 

Bronze, Opal B/S, Midnight B/S, Purple B/S. Black Shoulder Silver Pied ,Cameo w/e, Peach, India Blue, Taupe, Charcoal

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"Excuse me for working so hard but I must support the 12 milllion who are on Welfare"

 

 

Bronze, Opal B/S, Midnight B/S, Purple B/S. Black Shoulder Silver Pied ,Cameo w/e, Peach, India Blue, Taupe, Charcoal

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post #17 of 18

Thanks Frenchblackcopper, that's very help, I hope I can have those colored peafowls oneday. I will carefully read the website you suggested. Thanks.

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Yeah, I didn't think so but Frenchy eluded to it from seeing the pic I posted so I had to ask.  With my Spaulding Purple BS cock I had a Spaulding Purple BS hen, (both from Deerman stock), an IBBS hen and two Cameo hens with unknown splits, one has white flights.  They made a LOT of IBBS cocks, Purple BS cocks and hens, and IB cocks, and Purple hens and only a couple of Purple cocks.  There are a couple of BS hen chicks that are real light orangy color as shown in the pic above, the one FBC thought may be Cameo BS or Cameo Pied.  I haven't seen any white expressed from that pen at all.

 

On an unrelated side note; is there any such thing as a Cameo Dark Pied?  or is it just called Cameo split White?

Yes there is Cameo dark pied.

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