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Hi I wanted to know if anyone could help me identify what breed these two might be any input would be appreciated. Thank you!!

The black one javi is very skittish so it was hard to get a good picture of her and the brown one we call welly.
 





Hi I wanted to know if anyone could help me identify what breed these two might be any input would be appreciated. Thank you!!

The black one javi is very skittish so it was hard to get a good picture of her and the brown one we call welly.
The black one looks like it has yellowish skin, so it might be a Jersey Giant. The red/brown one is a mixed breed.
 

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