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No I don't think he had that he was perfectly healthy and I have never had kidney failure in my chickens I think he died of some natural disaster that I wish I knew


If you didn't do a necropsy then you don't know what he died of. When people have roosters die suddenly with no symptoms, they don't do a necropsy and just shrug their shoulders. I wish more people would necropsy, then they'd know the damage excess calcium does. People continue to ignore the research and feed non layers layer feed.

Non-layers includes roosters, pullets and molting hens. 4% Ca is too much for them in the long term.

 

For those that want to save their birds from a feeding mistake I offer the following study.

http://nhjy.hzau.edu.cn/kech/synkx/dong/2bao/UrolithiasisChina.pdf


Edited by ChickenCanoe - 10/15/15 at 5:36am

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If you didn't do a necropsy then you don't know what he died of. When people have roosters die suddenly with no symptoms, they don't do a necropsy and just shrug their shoulders. I wish more people would necropsy, then they'd know the damage excess calcium does. People continue to ignore the research and feed non layers layer feed.
Non-layers includes roosters, pullets and molting hens. 4% Ca is too much for them in the long term.

For those that want to save their birds from a feeding mistake I offer the following study.
http://nhjy.hzau.edu.cn/kech/synkx/dong/2bao/UrolithiasisChina.pdf

Thankyou for your helpful advise i just dont know what to feed them besides layer pellets and we have jolting hens that r still laying
post #13 of 15

I almost never have a single flock that are all laying at the same time. When I do I feed layer. Otherwise, I feed a grower or all flock feed and keep at least one container of oyster shell with each flock. One by the feeder and sometimes another by the laying nests. I almost never have a problem with egg shells.

This is the standard approach for those with mixed flocks.

This does create another issue for roosters since 18% protein is a bit high for them. In one pen I hand a feeder too high for the hens to reach. It has 15% finisher feed for the rooster.

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Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime.”                  Mark Twain

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Well I have roos and hens together
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I usually have at least one rooster with each flock. The 18% protein in grower feed won't hurt them as much as the 4% calcium will. Excess calcium can cause visceral gout. Excess protein can cause articular gout. That overloads both the liver and kidneys.

Most people have good success with the all flock feed and calcium on the side for the layers.

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Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime.”                  Mark Twain

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