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Can I use DE Earth on baby chicks?

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Today I found 3 new borns under my broody, to my horror my Broody hen is infested with little black bugs/mites/lice....(not sure what exactly they are)

I immediately brought the 3 chicks inside, they have the little black bugs too.

I put them on top of a piece of paper towel and started killing the bugs as I see them.

 

The bugs appears to contain blood as I killed them . 

 

Anyone knows if I can use DE earth on baby chicks?

 

or if DE earth will help in this case.

 

ANYONE please help! 

post #2 of 6

You can but it won't kill the mites.

DE is a preventative. You need something like 5% Sevin dust, permethrin dust. Something intended to kill mites on animals.

http://www.the-chicken-chick.com/2012/08/poultry-lice-and-mites-identification.html

 

By the way, you'll need to clean out and treat your coop and all the birds.


Edited by ChickenCanoe - 10/31/15 at 4:42am

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“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts.

Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime.”                  Mark Twain

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I've never used anything other than DE and I find it very effective on lice and red mites....which I think may be the ones you are seeing as they suck blood. I always dust the nest and surrounding area with DE before I set a broody as I once had a nest become infested with red mites and the broody had to abandon it before the eggs hatched.

 

I would give the chicks back to the broody and put them in a new clean area with a dust bath containing sand/soil and wood ash and DE where they can clean themselves up. There is great entertainment to be had from watching a broody hen showing her chicks how to dust bath! Then clean out and dust the area that you had them in with DE. I use a soft brush and dip it into the DE and then brush it into all the nooks and crannies as that is where the mites hide. A couple of days after I've dusted with DE I start to see little piles of dead mites which look a bit like cigarette ash.

 

That is my experience and I just wanted to give an alternative view to the previous poster who for some reason hasn't found DE effective. I'm sure Sevin dust will be more effective than DE but there are concerns about the widespread use of such chemicals and I believe it is no longer available to buy over the counter in some countries.... these products always make me think of DDT and it's widespread use before it was banned..

DE may take several days to work as it causes death by dehydration rather than chemical poisoning but it has certainly worked for me.... I think perhaps people who haven't had success with it have just sprinkled it about rather than dusting it into all the crevices.

It is advisable to wear a dust mask whilst you are using it.

 

Good luck whatever you decide to use.

post #4 of 6

I use DE all the time. Every time I change bedding and nest material in all the coops I spread DE in all nooks and crannies, throughout the bedding and on all roosts.

 I use it simply as a preventative. Apparently it does work because I never have a problem.

That said, if I had a bad infestation, I wouldn't mess around and use something that works quicker.

 

I try to be as natural as possible. There's a big difference between permethrin or carbaryl and DDT.


Edited by ChickenCanoe - 10/31/15 at 5:36am

NPIP 43-813

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Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime.”                  Mark Twain

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NPIP 43-813

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Originally Posted by saintxy View Post
 

Today I found 3 new borns under my broody, to my horror my Broody hen is infested with little black bugs/mites/lice....(not sure what exactly they are)

I immediately brought the 3 chicks inside, they have the little black bugs too.

I put them on top of a piece of paper towel and started killing the bugs as I see them.

 

The bugs appears to contain blood as I killed them . 

 

Anyone knows if I can use DE earth on baby chicks?

 

or if DE earth will help in this case.

 

ANYONE please help! 

 

I would be looking for something better and "chick safe".   Blood sucking parasites are bad on adults, but even worse on fragile babies.

 

Obviously this advice comes to late but I usually dose all the birds with frontline spray before chicks arrive, or at least dose the broody a week or two before the chicks hatch.


Edited by Sonya9 - 10/31/15 at 6:17am
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I have used poultry dust on chicks.

-Kathy
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