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*Sorry for the long post, just hoping to be as detailed as possible to shorten the back and forth as she may not have much time left.*

 

We have a sick Blue Laced Red Wyandotte that has gone down hill pretty bad over the last few days. She is one of 13 other chickens. She is 23 weeks old and we have had her for about 18 weeks.

 

We have noticed she has been somewhat lethargic for about the last month. Getting around, eating, and acting normal, she just seemed to rest in the yard more than the others. A few days ago we noticed she was resting a lot more and not interested in much. The strange part of it was she kind of had her feet slightly in front of her while sitting down.

 

The next day she started getting worse. When she ran up to get some treats we noticed the toes on her right foot were starting to curl and she was walking with a clenched foot and starting to lose her balance slightly.

 

We brought her into our climate controlled shop in a small pen to start giving her a vitamin solution in her water and let her rest. Also gave her some eggs. The next day she progressed to not being able to stand up, laying down slightly on her side with her feet out. She could she eat and move her head around just fine. The next day she started having trouble keeping her head up and having trouble making contact with her food. She also started doing something strange, she was clicking her beak a lot.

 

The following morning we decided to start tube feeding her to ensure she didn't waste away. We used kaytee exact parrot hand feeding formula. Also, we used the vitamin water solution as the water source for the mix so we could continue the vitamin supplement. We have been feeding 25ml of the solution twice a day given her medium size, didn't want to overflow her crop and choke her.

 

We have been doing this for 2 days now and today is the worst she's been. She lays down with her neck out and her legs out to the front and back, like the splits. Every now and then she can muster the energy to raise her head up and try to move around until she lays back down and closes her eyes. She also has a thick mucous discharge from her mouth only. Not a lot, but a thick slimy somewhat cloudy mucous. She is also having trouble breathing from the mucous. Every now and then she opens her beak to take a breath and you can hear it.

 

Other symptoms to note: Her legs are cold and she has these tiny red spots on them. Not bleeding, just like red pores.

 

Her face and comb are red, not pale. Her crop drains and does not appear to be impacted. We can find no damage. Her stools have never been bloody or shown any signs of parasites.

 

 

We are hoping this is just a vitamin deficiency and not Marek's. None of the other chickens have ever show any symptoms. We are going to start giving SMZ/TMP in her feed solution just in case. We have read if you continue tube feeding and supplementing vitamins they can possibly survive as the reason they die is starvation/dehydration.

 

Any help or ideas would be greatly appreciated. She's such a great looking BLRW and we would hate to lose her. My husband was also wondering if there's even any hope for her possible recovery or if we should just end her suffering.

 

Thanks!

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So sorry! :hugs  It does sound like Marek's though.  http://www.backyardchickens.com/a/mareks-virus-the-most-frequently-asked-questions

"When raising chickens you must think like a chicken...NOT like a human!"

http://www.backyardchickens.com/a/how-to-prepare-for-emergencies-diseases-injuries-before-they-happen 

 

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"When raising chickens you must think like a chicken...NOT like a human!"

http://www.backyardchickens.com/a/how-to-prepare-for-emergencies-diseases-injuries-before-they-happen 

 

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post #3 of 7

It all sounded like classic Mareks symptoms  until you mentioned the red spots on her legs. Can you get a picture of that? Mareks can cause some red spots in the legs too, but AI can cause that. Below is a picture of hemorrhages in the legs, evidenced by the red spots from avian influenza. Do you know if you have had any of that in your area? Here is a link about avian influenza, just in case: http://partnersah.vet.cornell.edu/avian-atlas/#/disease/Avian_Influenza

 

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avian influenza

 

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Mareks disease

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Originally Posted by Bridebeliever View Post
 

So sorry! :hugs  It does sound like Marek's though.  http://www.backyardchickens.com/a/mareks-virus-the-most-frequently-asked-questions

 

We are afraid that may be it, but from what we've read, vitamin B2(riboflavin) deficiency is awfully similar. Her eyes seem perfectly normal. Also, she seems to have very good weight to her. She was always very heavy, even when we got her. I remember thinking she had a chunk of lead taped to her, very healthy bird.

 

I'm hoping someone may have some suggestions of what to do, but after much research I'm afraid we are doing all that is possible. That she will either recover eventually since we are tube feeding, or die. I just don't want to continue to prolong her suffering if she will die anyway.

 

EDIT: Going to take some pics right now.


Edited by AJ83 - 11/10/15 at 6:16pm
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post #6 of 7

Make sure that your vitamin tonic contains riboflavin, because certain ones do not (such as Poultry Nutri-drench.) I hope she survives, but I would contact your state vet's office, usually the Dept. Of Agriculture, to see about getting a necropsy to look for a cause of death if you lose her.

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We are using Durvet Vitamins and Electrolytes. If/when she dies, we will definitely put her in the fridge and see if we can get a necropsy done. I don't know if it's related or not, but we had our oldest black australorp die with no apparent cause a few days ago. No symptoms whatsoever. She was heavy, healthy, and laid an egg that day.

 


Edited by AJ83 - 11/10/15 at 7:36pm
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