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I am curious if it might be an allergy. Did you change feeds recently? If not, I would try changing feeds to something with a different formulation.

 

Another thought is kefir - homemade, not store bought. Kefir is very much like yogurt, but contains beneficial yeasts as well as beneficial bacterias. A good homemade kefir contains something like 40-60 different strains of beneficial strains as opposed to 4 or 5 in most organic yogurts. The beneficial yeasts will compete with the nasty yeasts (fungus, bacteria, etc.) and after feeding the kefir for a while, should overwhelm the bad and restore a natural balance. Kefir is easily made on the countertop at home and once they try it, chickens love it! It is excellent for people and dogs, too. 

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I am curious if it might be an allergy. Did you change feeds recently? If not, I would try changing feeds to something with a different formulation.

 

Another thought is kefir - homemade, not store bought. Kefir is very much like yogurt, but contains beneficial yeasts as well as beneficial bacterias. A good homemade kefir contains something like 40-60 different strains of beneficial strains as opposed to 4 or 5 in most organic yogurts. The beneficial yeasts will compete with the nasty yeasts (fungus, bacteria, etc.) and after feeding the kefir for a while, should overwhelm the bad and restore a natural balance. Kefir is easily made on the countertop at home and once they try it, chickens love it! It is excellent for people and dogs, too. 

 

Actually, they have been getting a half and half mixture Nutrena Layer Crumbles and also some of the Nutrena Feather Fixer.  When they were going thru molt a couple of months ago, I started giving them the Feather Fixer, which is supposed to be great for them during molt and can be fed all year long.  So maybe I should remove the Feather Fixer from the mix and just give the regular layer food.

 

In any event, I'd love to know how to make this kefir!  One of the hens seems to have a messy bottom (wondering if it's some sort of yeast infection), so maybe this kefir would help her with that too!  Is there some sort of recipe to make the kefir that you could direct me to?  

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I would probably consult a vet with the one who has the worst symptoms. They could probably do a skin scraping for fungus or whatever else it could be. Maybe it is some sort of mite like mange?

 

The closest vet (that supposedly works on chickens) is about an hour away.  And I know that it will end up being quite an expense to get this figured out and treated, which my hubby would not be happy about..  But maybe you are right --- maybe I'm dealing with a whole different thing.  Ugh!  :/

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Actually, they have been getting a half and half mixture Nutrena Layer Crumbles and also some of the Nutrena Feather Fixer.  When they were going thru molt a couple of months ago, I started giving them the Feather Fixer, which is supposed to be great for them during molt and can be fed all year long.  So maybe I should remove the Feather Fixer from the mix and just give the regular layer food.

 

In any event, I'd love to know how to make this kefir!  One of the hens seems to have a messy bottom (wondering if it's some sort of yeast infection), so maybe this kefir would help her with that too!  Is there some sort of recipe to make the kefir that you could direct me to?  

Did you start the feather fixer before or after you noticed the current skin condition? If it showed up after you added that to their diet, that may very well be the culprit. In any case, the kefir can't hurt.

 

You need to find someone with a starter culture to buy (some will share for free :)). I don't have any extra at the moment or I would send you some. If you have any friends that get raw milk, they probably know about it and may be able to help you locate some starter. It is like a little gummy cauliflower head. :P You can buy some through Azure Standard or check with any natural food stores in your area. They can probably steer you in the right direction. Amazon also has sellers that offer it, just make sure you check their feedback. I bought my original starter off Ebay. I can send you directions for how to culture it. Oh wait, let me see if I can attach it here! 

MyKefirInstructions.docx 16k .docx file

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Did you start the feather fixer before or after you noticed the current skin condition? If it showed up after you added that to their diet, that may very well be the culprit. In any case, the kefir can't hurt.

 

You need to find someone with a starter culture to buy (some will share for free :)). I don't have any extra at the moment or I would send you some. If you have any friends that get raw milk, they probably know about it and may be able to help you locate some starter. It is like a little gummy cauliflower head. :P You can buy some through Azure Standard or check with any natural food stores in your area. They can probably steer you in the right direction. Amazon also has sellers that offer it, just make sure you check their feedback. I bought my original starter off Ebay. I can send you directions for how to culture it. Oh wait, let me see if I can attach it here! 

MyKefirInstructions.docx 16k .docx file

 

I can't remember if I started the Feather Fixer before or after, so I've just gone out and removed their food and replaced it with just the regular crumbles.  Better safe than sorry.

 

And thanks for the Kefir instructions --- regardless, this would be a beneficial thing to give to them!  :)

post #16 of 18

I just looked again at the Azure Standard site and I don't think their Kefir starter is the kind you want. Please keep us advised on how they are doing.

post #17 of 18
I give my birds kefir, keifer whey in their fermented feed mix and kombucha tea and old scoby...they love it all and seems to be really good for them...and us!
post #18 of 18
How is treating for favus going? What treatment, if any, worked best?
I purchased a couple birds at a swap not very long ago that I suspect of having favus, and I have no idea how to go about it.
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