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post #11 of 17

That hen is not wheaten. A wheaten hen should only have black through her primary wing feathers and through her tail, and it shouldn't be random flecks of black.

post #12 of 17
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So the breeder is selling bad eggs?
post #13 of 17
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So the breeder is selling bad eggs?

The breeder doesn't know what makes an Ameraucana, an Ameraucana. They aren't really a 'breeder', but someone with chickens and happens to have a rooster or two to fertilize eggs

It's likely parent stock Ameraucana are actually Easter Eggers, but the breeder doesn't even realize it. People order 'Ameraucana' from hatcheries all the time, and never suspect that the hatchery isn't actually selling true Ameraucana. They try to guess which birds are which color variety, and almost always get it wrong since Easter Eggers aren't standard colors. Then they breed and sell the chicks as true Ameraucana.

Then there are the people who actually have true Ameraucana, but don't realize that you can't cross varieties and still call them Ameraucana. 

post #14 of 17
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So then there's no such thing as a "purebred wheaten and blue wheaten ameraucana"? That's how they advertise themselves. Specializing in those birds and showing them.

This is another one from that breeder who I hatched.


And then these I hatched from a different person who had silkied splash and blue ameraucanas. Are these ameraucanas? They're supposed to be. Their adoptive mother obviously isn't.
post #15 of 17
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So then there's no such thing as a "purebred wheaten and blue wheaten ameraucana"? That's how they advertise themselves. Specializing in those birds and showing them.

This is another one from that breeder who I hatched.


And then these I hatched from a different person who had silkied splash and blue ameraucanas. Are these ameraucanas? They're supposed to be. Their adoptive mother obviously isn't.

Wheaten, Blue Wheaten, Splash Wheaten are all the same color but with or without the dominant blue dilute gene for black. Silkied Ameraucana are still a project variety and are technically considered Easter Eggers. Black/Blue/Splash can be bred together because they are all genetically solid black birds. Keep in mind that blue isn't really a color, but a dilute for black. You can't breed completely different varieties and still call them Ameraucana. For example, if you cross a Wheaten with Silver, you get neither color, but a combination. They don't meet any standard for color, so they aren't Ameraucana. A lot of people will try to argue that breed is breed, and has nothing to do with color, but for chickens that simply isn't true. A bird must have all the characteristics of a specific breed and be a recognized color variety.

post #16 of 17
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Interesting. So then Chloride, the one pictured with the chicks, would be considered one since she has black only on her wings and tail? Or would that be an Easter egger passing for an ameraucana?

One of the silkied that hatched had regular feathers, so would he be considered a splash while his siblings would be Easter eggers?
post #17 of 17
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Interesting. So then Chloride, the one pictured with the chicks, would be considered one since she has black only on her wings and tail? Or would that be an Easter egger passing for an ameraucana?

One of the silkied that hatched had regular feathers, so would he be considered a splash while his siblings would be Easter eggers?

Chloride looks like a Wheaten, not a great quality one, but close enough to be considered Ameraucana. 

Technically, all the chicks from the silkie hatch would be considered Easter Eggers. The breed clubs are working on getting Splash recognized, but it hasn't been accepted yet. 

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