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Correct. That is actually a very common misunderstanding as most people think it simply means a duck with three colors. Such as a rusted blue (blue, rust and white). But it refers to the genetic make up of the duck and the way the pattern is displayed.

 

In my experience, they stay cleaner and seem happier if allowed to free range rather than being penned. Mine are penned this time of the year for breeding and they get mad about it. Haha

 

For quality, heres what ti look for

PATTERN: broken, speckled asymmetrical pattern. Spots under the eyes, on the bill, and the legs/feet. Chest marking are highly desirable. You want roughly 1/3 color and 2/3 white and want it to be random patterns. Not solid backs or heads as that means they can easily be confused with their relative, the magpie.

SIZE: this will vary by the flock as some breeders want smaller birds while others breed them large to serve better as a dual purpose (meat) bird. I like them in the middle. Hens around 6 lbs and drakes around 7 lbs.

CONFORMATION: this will also vary greatly by the bird. I aim for NO runnerish features (long necks, long slender body, long bill with a straight fixture to the head, and upright stance). You will see a lot of anconas with these qualities. IMO, they are very poor quality. I like more of a horizontal carriage, round head with a medium length bill thats slightly curved, legs positioned in the middle rather than towards the back of the body, full chest and a medium length, full body (basically).

 

I'll post a few pics with good/bad qualities just to point a few out to you if that helps!

 

I like this hen. She could use a little length to her body but overall a good specimen to work with

 

This hen is just ok. Legs are a bit far back, could use a little more color and foot markings,also needs a rounder head

 

These are decent birds. All could use foot and bill color. But the chest speckling on the bird on the right is very nice, head and bills are nice (except for the far right bird that shows just the head and neck. Bill is longer than I like)

 

Personally, I LOVE this little drake. Hes on the small side and has a long bill, short neck, and could use some fullness to his chest. But his speckles are remarkable. So I plan to use him with some of my better conformed hens this spring

 

Nice bird here. Desirable chest markings, needs bill color

 

2010 adult

Poor quality. No leg or bill color. Too much white, funky shaped head, legs set too far back

 

2013 juvies

Heres a good example of the runnerish stance you DON'T want (bottom left and right). Granted many will stand like this if you startle them, but judge yours when they are acting normally and that will give you an idea of how they stand at rest

 

Young juvies. First full feather molt- 2014

Poor quality- short body, chest isn't full, runnerish bill

 

 

I hope that helps a little! Remember that this is not a recognized breed so there is no set standard. Which means you can technically breed for whatever you personally like. But who take the breed seriously use the suggested standard that was written by Dave Holderread

NPIP CERTIFIED! Al's Quackery is a small waterfowl farm in Southern Maine. I raise ducks, ducklings, geese, goslings and sell hatching eggs.
Ducks: Anconas (Black, Blue, Chocolate, Lavender, Lilac and Silver),  Muscovy (barred in black, blue, chocolate and combo, ripples in dark, chocolate, and blue shades, lavenders, and looneys in blue, black, chocolate and lilac)

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NPIP CERTIFIED! Al's Quackery is a small waterfowl farm in Southern Maine. I raise ducks, ducklings, geese, goslings and sell hatching eggs.
Ducks: Anconas (Black, Blue, Chocolate, Lavender, Lilac and Silver),  Muscovy (barred in black, blue, chocolate and combo, ripples in dark, chocolate, and blue shades, lavenders, and looneys in blue, black, chocolate and lilac)

Call Ducks: pied / magpie...

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post #22 of 28

Yes this is a great help.  These will be the next addition.  I was sold on Silver Appleyard Ducks until I found these.  At some point, I will probably raise both but I can't build up too fast.  Your expertise has really been helpful and I hope that you will have ducks available at the time I am ready.

 

With the mallard type ducks it is easy to sex the ducks when they develop the color in their head.  When and how do you sex these ducks?  They don't seem to have an obvious difference until that drake feather is pronounced.  When does that happen?

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Yes this is a great help.  These will be the next addition.  I was sold on Silver Appleyard Ducks until I found these.  At some point, I will probably raise both but I can't build up too fast.  Your expertise has really been helpful and I hope that you will have ducks available at the time I am ready.

 

With the mallard type ducks it is easy to sex the ducks when they develop the color in their head.  When and how do you sex these ducks?  They don't seem to have an obvious difference until that drake feather is pronounced.  When does that happen?

You're welcome! I'm happy to help! And I keep a black show quality flock that I sell eggs and ducklings from as well as a colored flock with show quality and breeder quality birds. So just let me know when you are ready for some.

 

Mallards should be sex-able around 8-10 weeks by voice. They will be colored the same, but males will be quiet and raspy while females will have a very loud QUACK. Then around 12-16 weeks the males will develop curly tail feathers and change color

NPIP CERTIFIED! Al's Quackery is a small waterfowl farm in Southern Maine. I raise ducks, ducklings, geese, goslings and sell hatching eggs.
Ducks: Anconas (Black, Blue, Chocolate, Lavender, Lilac and Silver),  Muscovy (barred in black, blue, chocolate and combo, ripples in dark, chocolate, and blue shades, lavenders, and looneys in blue, black, chocolate and lilac)

Call Ducks: pied / magpie...

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NPIP CERTIFIED! Al's Quackery is a small waterfowl farm in Southern Maine. I raise ducks, ducklings, geese, goslings and sell hatching eggs.
Ducks: Anconas (Black, Blue, Chocolate, Lavender, Lilac and Silver),  Muscovy (barred in black, blue, chocolate and combo, ripples in dark, chocolate, and blue shades, lavenders, and looneys in blue, black, chocolate and lilac)

Call Ducks: pied / magpie...

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post #24 of 28

I think I misled you with my last question.  The mallard type like Rouen, Silver Appleyard, and Saxony are easily sexable.  How do you identify the sex of the Ancona?  Is this the voice sexing you were talking about?  Then the tail feathers?

 

What is the difference between show quality and breeder quality?  Can you show Anconas since they are not officially recognized?  They are pretty - it would be a shame if not.

post #25 of 28
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Oh I see what you are asking, since ancona drakes don't have a distinguishable feature such as a green head- they can be voice sexed and sexed by the curly tail feather. But keep in mind that they do lose it and regrow it. So depending on where they are in their molt cycle, a male can be mistaken for a female unless you go by voice. 

 

Show quality are birds that are "near perfect". They have all of the qualities and characteristics that would potentially place them in a show. Breeder quality are birds that have a flaw or near flaw, but are otherwise "near perfect". But do produce show quality offspring and don't have any disqualifications. 

 

You can show anconas, but since they are not (yet) a recognized breed, they can't place any higher than BV. 

NPIP CERTIFIED! Al's Quackery is a small waterfowl farm in Southern Maine. I raise ducks, ducklings, geese, goslings and sell hatching eggs.
Ducks: Anconas (Black, Blue, Chocolate, Lavender, Lilac and Silver),  Muscovy (barred in black, blue, chocolate and combo, ripples in dark, chocolate, and blue shades, lavenders, and looneys in blue, black, chocolate and lilac)

Call Ducks: pied / magpie...

Reply

NPIP CERTIFIED! Al's Quackery is a small waterfowl farm in Southern Maine. I raise ducks, ducklings, geese, goslings and sell hatching eggs.
Ducks: Anconas (Black, Blue, Chocolate, Lavender, Lilac and Silver),  Muscovy (barred in black, blue, chocolate and combo, ripples in dark, chocolate, and blue shades, lavenders, and looneys in blue, black, chocolate and lilac)

Call Ducks: pied / magpie...

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post #26 of 28
Gorgeous birds! I only have chickens right now but hopefully can eventually get ducks and you seem really knowledgeable
Kelsey. Massachusetts. Have a 4 year old Black Lab/Great Pyrenees mix named Gator, a 6 year old kitty named Luna, and 8 hens hatched October 26th, 2015. 1 Barred Rock, 2 Black Australorps, 3 Buff Orpingtons, and 2 Easter Eggers on about 3 acres. 5 more chicks coming this October
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Kelsey. Massachusetts. Have a 4 year old Black Lab/Great Pyrenees mix named Gator, a 6 year old kitty named Luna, and 8 hens hatched October 26th, 2015. 1 Barred Rock, 2 Black Australorps, 3 Buff Orpingtons, and 2 Easter Eggers on about 3 acres. 5 more chicks coming this October
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post #27 of 28
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Gorgeous birds! I only have chickens right now but hopefully can eventually get ducks and you seem really knowledgeable

Thank you! Happy to help when I can!

NPIP CERTIFIED! Al's Quackery is a small waterfowl farm in Southern Maine. I raise ducks, ducklings, geese, goslings and sell hatching eggs.
Ducks: Anconas (Black, Blue, Chocolate, Lavender, Lilac and Silver),  Muscovy (barred in black, blue, chocolate and combo, ripples in dark, chocolate, and blue shades, lavenders, and looneys in blue, black, chocolate and lilac)

Call Ducks: pied / magpie...

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NPIP CERTIFIED! Al's Quackery is a small waterfowl farm in Southern Maine. I raise ducks, ducklings, geese, goslings and sell hatching eggs.
Ducks: Anconas (Black, Blue, Chocolate, Lavender, Lilac and Silver),  Muscovy (barred in black, blue, chocolate and combo, ripples in dark, chocolate, and blue shades, lavenders, and looneys in blue, black, chocolate and lilac)

Call Ducks: pied / magpie...

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post #28 of 28
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Thank you! Happy to help when I can!

No problem! And thanks! Maybe over the summer or next year smile.png
Kelsey. Massachusetts. Have a 4 year old Black Lab/Great Pyrenees mix named Gator, a 6 year old kitty named Luna, and 8 hens hatched October 26th, 2015. 1 Barred Rock, 2 Black Australorps, 3 Buff Orpingtons, and 2 Easter Eggers on about 3 acres. 5 more chicks coming this October
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Kelsey. Massachusetts. Have a 4 year old Black Lab/Great Pyrenees mix named Gator, a 6 year old kitty named Luna, and 8 hens hatched October 26th, 2015. 1 Barred Rock, 2 Black Australorps, 3 Buff Orpingtons, and 2 Easter Eggers on about 3 acres. 5 more chicks coming this October
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