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Some of the posts in this section will make me laugh, I've a dark humor, and others make me roll eyes and shake head in wonder. Which response depends on my humor for that day.


If you've just lost a bird and your first thought is to identify the predator with game camera instead of inspecting the run or fence then your what kills the second.

If birds are being killed at night and you set up Have a Heart traps in lieu of closing the coop door at night then your what kills the next.

If you believe a guard dog purchased as puppy will by instinct alone patrol and protect your flock without eating some then I don't believe anyone can help you.

Management styles do indeed differ but if one free ranges with open coops and expects to relocate all predators in area with have a heart I can't accept that as an actual style of management. In truth it's mismanagement not a different style. Lack of responsibility in gardening bears no loss. One can throw seeds on the ground without even opening the packet and call themselves a gardener and proclaim oneness with nature though it will bear no fruit. Husbandry by definition requires responsibility over the animals. Any loss or gain is due to the husband of animals. Ultimately loss in a flock is direct responsibility of the shepherd.


A game camera is not needed to identify culprit that killed your birds you simply need to grab cell phone to take a selfie. And that's my rant!!!???!!! HELP ME help you.

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:pop

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Some of the posts in this section will make me laugh, I've a dark humor, and others make me roll eyes and shake head in wonder. Which response depends on my humor for that day.


If you've just lost a bird and your first thought is to identify the predator with game camera instead of inspecting the run or fence then your what kills the second.

If birds are being killed at night and you set up Have a Heart traps in lieu of closing the coop door at night then your what kills the next.

If you believe a guard dog purchased as puppy will by instinct alone patrol and protect your flock without eating some then I don't believe anyone can help you.

Management styles do indeed differ but if one free ranges with open coops and expects to relocate all predators in area with have a heart I can't accept that as an actual style of management. In truth it's mismanagement not a different style. Lack of responsibility in gardening bears no loss. One can throw seeds on the ground without even opening the packet and call themselves a gardener and proclaim oneness with nature though it will bear no fruit. Husbandry by definition requires responsibility over the animals. Any loss or gain is due to the husband of animals. Ultimately loss in a flock is direct responsibility of the shepherd.


A game camera is not needed to identify culprit that killed your birds you simply need to grab cell phone to take a selfie. And that's my rant!!!???!!! HELP ME help you.

Makes sense to me

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If you believe a guard dog purchased as puppy will by instinct alone patrol and protect your flock without eating some then I don't believe anyone can help you.

 

Indeed a real lgd will exactly do that, with whatever they grow up they will protect. Just do a search in Australia this works even with (rare) penguins!

 

They will never rip a chicken and eat it, even if they like eating them if you give them one barbecued, those dogs have no hunting instinct. No  one knows for sure since when they are with mankind, probably forever? They are working dogs and only those doing a good job while eating little, could propagate themselves. So they are very different from any other dogs.

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"In the field of observation, chance favors only the prepared mind"

~Louis Pasteur

 

>NPIP certified<

 

Fear kills more dreams than failure ever will.

 

 Are not two sparrows sold for a penny? Yet not one of them will fall to the ground outside your Father’s care.  (Matthew 10:29)

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Indeed a real lgd will exactly do that, with whatever they grow up they will protect. Just do a search in Australia this works even with (rare) penguins!

 

They will never rip a chicken and eat it, even if they like eating them if you give them one barbecued, those dogs have no hunting instinct. No  one knows for sure since when they are with mankind, probably forever? They are working dogs and only those doing a good job while eating little, could propagate themselves. So they are very different from any other dogs.

It's funny, there was a person posting some time ago asking what was killing her birds that didn't believe be either. Somehow there was a fox or coyote that was outsmarting her LGD. The dog was left outside but some how a large canine foot print kept getting into her pen (over a 3 or 4 ft fence) and killing her birds? Sure is an oddity to me too. Wonder how it was done...

Everybody talks about the weather, but nobody does anything about it.

 

-Charles Dudley Warner

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Everybody talks about the weather, but nobody does anything about it.

 

-Charles Dudley Warner

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It's funny, there was a person posting some time ago asking what was killing her birds that didn't believe be either. Somehow there was a fox or coyote that was outsmarting her LGD. The dog was left outside but some how a large canine foot print kept getting into her pen (over a 3 or 4 ft fence) and killing her birds? Sure is an oddity to me too. Wonder how it was done...

 



Perhaps they missed the word "puppy"?

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~~"To a man who keeps hens, all poultry lore is exciting and endlessly fascinating."~~ EB White

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 Faverolles

My avatar is from this article: http://www.spiegel.de/international/zeitgeist/owl-raises-chicks-at-german-zoo-a-829641.html

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I lost 6 to a Hawk, It took us two months to figure it out. 

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