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post #11 of 18

Here is my take on getting blacks. They come from mating blue x blue or blues to blacks. I am sure everyone's flocks are different but in mine I always get way more black  pullets than black cockerals when it comes to pure blacks. Mating black to black of course always yields blacks. I know everyone's Marans are subtly different. My blues and blacks also often may start out with lighter eyes then darken up to the correct color on maturity.

 

I don't think getting mostly girls is specific to my black and blue Marans though, because in some of my other breeds like Key West, I almost always get mostly girls too, lol. I have read you can mate silver cuckoo to black as well to try to get blacks.  Mine came from nice stocky blues so I haven't tried the cuckoo thing. I would not attempt to use Black or Blue Coppers to try to achieve all black because the hens will hide the copper and then somewhere down the line you will end up with roos expressing the copper gene.

 

As far as breeding for dark eggs, I have found the egg color the rooster comes from does count as much or perhaps even more than the egg color of the mama hen. If you can keep track of your roosters from the darkest eggs, it will help you darken up your egg color much quicker in your flock.

 

Now this is a Black Copper baby roo as you can tell by the white speck by the eye but this is just an example...I take pics of my males with their eggs upon hatch and then band them according to the egg coloring. You can label your photos with a number and then also put that number on your chicks band etc. That way one can cull for the other traits I want balancing with the egg color the roo came from.

BCM roo from a dark egg showing scant leg feathering 


Edited by flgardengirl - 5/3/16 at 5:51pm

Specializing in Solid Black and Blue Marans also have: Wheaten,Golden Cuckoo, Blue/Blk Copper,barred BTB, BTB, blue/blk birchen Marans.  Lavender, white, buff, chocolate, black Orps, Silkies, Key West aka Gypsy chickens, Ameraucanas, Muscovies, Sebastapol Geese, Guineas,Gobblers, Parrots. 

~Sorry not selling eggs or chicks at this time~

 

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Specializing in Solid Black and Blue Marans also have: Wheaten,Golden Cuckoo, Blue/Blk Copper,barred BTB, BTB, blue/blk birchen Marans.  Lavender, white, buff, chocolate, black Orps, Silkies, Key West aka Gypsy chickens, Ameraucanas, Muscovies, Sebastapol Geese, Guineas,Gobblers, Parrots. 

~Sorry not selling eggs or chicks at this time~

 

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post #12 of 18

Gorgeous birds! I love the color of the eggs. :thumbsup

post #13 of 18
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Laying really dark eggs:  Are the darkest Maran eggs subject to "meat spots" /"blood spots" inside the egg?  I was hoping to sell a few of these eggs, but the public likely won't return for eggs with a "blood spot" inside.  Curious. 

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post #14 of 18
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Beautiful Roo, flgardengirl !   Is there an ideal age for evaluation conformation in pullets?  A couple of my girls have slightly "blacker/duskier" faces, would they lay the darkest eggs?  The feathering on the pullets legs vary considerably at 3.5months of age.  Should I nix the gals with hardly any "boots"?   I can't keep all, so I have to be critical.   Thanks...Black Maran people...

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post #15 of 18

There is no way to be sure of the shade of brown until the pullet actually starts laying. Any birds with feathering on the inner toes would be a cull. The standard calls for 'light' feathering, so birds with heavy feathering or just a few feathers on the legs would be culls. Evaluating conformation is pretty difficult to do when dealing with 'teenage' birds. 

post #16 of 18
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Thanks, junebuggena for your comments about culling.  None of my gals have any feathers beyond the middle toe.  Middle toe skimpy feathers still a major fault?  Will any of the leg feathering likely be more "profuse" with "adulthood"?  Should I wait to cull my 3.5 old Fun Bunch?  Can you recommend the best age at which to cull conformation?  Sorry...for all de questions.  Never having any Marans (Black, or otherwise) before I am lost.  Interesting personalities. Docile and kinda clumsy so far.   Most have a beautiful "beetle green"/metallic sheen to their back feathers so far (one even shows some "violet flashes").  They 'light up' in the sunlight....

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post #17 of 18

I believe that only the outer toe is supposed to have feathering. Feathering is not likely to get fuller with age. Conformation is best evaluated after 6 months, once they are matured and filled out.

post #18 of 18
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Thanks again, junebuggena for the explanations.  The Village Idiot (me) went back out to take a hard look at legs, and only one pullet has a tiny bit of feather on the middle toe. Yes,...the remaining nine girls only have feathers on the outer toe.  I will try to find some pictures that show the amount of ideal feathering. 

 

You may force me to keep all the girls until six months.  None of the chickens are crowded, in coop, or run.  The goofy Marans love to clumsily  run full length of their run, uselessly flapping their wings as they go. The silly/happy pullets are a hoot.   They rarely try to converse, just the opposite of the Welsummers who are quite "gabby", and rarely tear across the run.  My same-age Welsummers are much more sedate.  The Belgian Bearded Bantams think all dem Large Ladies are nuts. 

 

I did order some Bandettes  from Cutlers Pheasant Supply tonight.  Hope, I bought the right size!  Haven't ordered from Cutlers for decades, but they used to be a reliable seller. 

 

 

I still have much, much, to learn about Black Marans.  Appreciate your help.

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