Horse Talk

That's true. Other animals don't drink milk past infancy let alone another species milk lol but I've read recently that milk and butter and other animal fats/products are pretty good for you. At least the raw, unpasteurized ones. Which i can believe. I don't think store ones are as good. And I still wouldn't eat it as much as they recommended but ya.

And thanks, thats good to know. Still nervous though lol





Oooohhhh he's handsome. Although is he fat or is that just the angle? Haha also completely random and nothing to do with the stud and i may be reading it wrong but why did they breed a 28 year old horse? And does that thing say a one year old too?

But I think he's a very handsome stud and would be fine.

Though I do like mobster still

I don't think it would be wasted, plenty of great stallions have pet offspring.

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Most things are good for you in moderation. I’m not vegan but i do believe vegan is the healthiest diet. But i think if you eat lots of fruits and veggies and a little bit of meat and milk here and there that it’s healthy. Especially if it’s all natural.

And he’s fat right now haha he’s had the winter off. And not sure on the ages! I didn’t look that closely

abigalerose said:

That's true. Other animals don't drink milk past infancy let alone another species milk lol but I've read recently that milk and butter and other animal fats/products are pretty good for you. At least the raw, unpasteurized ones. Which i can believe. I don't think store ones are as good. And I still wouldn't eat it as much as they recommended but ya.

And thanks, thats good to know. Still nervous though lol





Oooohhhh he's handsome. Although is he fat or is that just the angle? Haha also completely random and nothing to do with the stud and i may be reading it wrong but why did they breed a 28 year old horse? And does that thing say a one year old too?

But I think he's a very handsome stud and would be fine.

Though I do like mobster still

I don't think it would be wasted, plenty of great stallions have pet offspring.

Although maybe you could find a trail horse stallion or line of horses?

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Most things are good for you in moderation. I’m not vegan but i do believe vegan is the healthiest diet. But i think if you eat lots of fruits and veggies and a little bit of meat and milk here and there that it’s healthy. Especially if it’s all natural.

And he’s fat right now haha he’s had the winter off. And not sure on the ages! I didn’t look that closely[/QUOTE]


I don't know. I've thought about vegan but then I've read about paleo and also WAPF (weston a price), both of which advocate animal products, and ketp, and idk, i get confused ha

Supposedly, according to them, there are nutrients that dont really absorb properly from plants and are much easier to absorb from animal sources, which makes sense to me. So I don't know.

Fruits and vegetables are definitely important though.

Ohhh that makes sense!!! And yeah, i probably read too closely

Idk why the quotes are all messed up haha. But anything about only being able to get certain nutrients from animals products is pretty much made up by companies who are profiting on animals products. A burger or some fish here and there won’t kill ya, but our bodies are 100% designed to live off vegetables. I mean geez all ya gotta do is look at our teeth. Molars, they’re for veggies not meat. But i don’t follow a vegan diet, it’s hard! Especially if you wanna do it right. Lol.
And yeah.. I’m bad at math so i just ignore the years on there
But i did talk to his owner and she’d be open to studding him to June

abigalerose said:

Idk why the quotes are all messed up haha. But anything about only being able to get certain nutrients from animals products is pretty much made up by companies who are profiting on animals products. A burger or some fish here and there won’t kill ya, but our bodies are 100% designed to live off vegetables. I mean geez all ya gotta do is look at our teeth. Molars, they’re for veggies not meat. But i don’t follow a vegan diet, it’s hard! Especially if you wanna do it right. Lol.
And yeah.. I’m bad at math so i just ignore the years on there
But i did talk to his owner and she’d be open to studding him to June

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Well, this was just like a blog/specific diet, not from anyone selling anything. But I guess that makes sense. They also say grains are bad or can be and have to be prepared right? Idk.

But that's true about the teeth thing hah

And yeah, anything healthy is hard it seems. Sweets are too tasty.

That's okay!!! But the date listed is usually the year born, right? Or no?

If so, isn't 28 old to breed and 1 young? Surely 1 must be a typo. The only reason i got that is cause it lists the same year for her and her son. So maybe I'm misreading it.

But ooohhh that's awesome!!

KDOGG331 said:

That makes sense. I never thought of it like that. But surely they don't like the rider? And they don't buck in the field, do they?

I didn't think of them having to travel and be around people. Makes sense they'd be more friendly. I guess an aggressive bull would be dangerous.

Wow that's sad.

See, that kind of goes with what I've been thinking/reading: I think they're starting to make the bulls a little bit TOO crazy. They shouldn't be injuring or killing themselves bucking.

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It was sad but freak accidents can happen in any sport. I saw a video once of a horse who had a heart attack and just died in the middle of trotting around a show. He wasn't over exerting or anything, he just...died. No one can predict that happening. The same thing with the bull. He had got his rider off already and he threw in a big head toss and one last buck and he just went down and seizured up and lost the function in the hind end. I knew it was his back or neck when it happened.

The bull who died was called Hey Jack and he was a strong bull. He'd been vet checked clear, no one could have known or they wouldn't have rode him. He was worth a fortune.

BabyBoss said:

It was sad but freak accidents can happen in any sport. I saw a video once of a horse who had a heart attack and just died in the middle of trotting around a show. He wasn't over exerting or anything, he just...died. No one can predict that happening. The same thing with the bull. He had got his rider off already and he threw in a big head toss and one last buck and he just went down and seizured up and lost the function in the hind end. I knew it was his back or neck when it happened.

The bull who died was called Hey Jack and he was a strong bull. He'd been vet checked clear, no one could have known or they wouldn't have rode him. He was worth a fortune.

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Wow that's really sad

Did the horse have a history of heart problems or anxiety or anything?

And that's true about freak accidents but still, they have bred them to buck crazier so accidents and injuries might become more likely now. Although it sounds like he wasn't really doing anything particularly crazy.

KDOGG331 said:

Wow that's really sad

Did the horse have a history of heart problems or anxiety or anything?

And that's true about freak accidents but still, they have bred them to buck crazier so accidents and injuries might become more likely now. Although it sounds like he wasn't really doing anything particularly crazy.

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I'm not sure on the horse.

I know my own horses though. We've ridden really hard in competition before, my gelding was a serious one in his day and he was like a fireball on cross country. If something had happened to him, it would have been an accident. Nothing more, nothing less. I was and am a careful rider, I don't push my horses too hard, they tell me the limit for speed on terrain and I give them the judgement call in rough conditions. As such we made clear courses in conditions other horses fell down in and got hurt because their riders didn't handle it right.

We ride huge and powerful animals. Like us they can get sick. Or simply fall. Rodeo, competition- they aren't for the faint of heart. A thousand pounds of horse at breakneck speed after another thousand of cow bucking with a rider and you need to pull him off because his 8 seconds are up, it's all a balancing act of extreme skill both on the part of the horses and riders involved and the training of the bull.

Sometimes people get hurt. Sometimes horses do. And sometimes bulls. They love what they do though.

abigalerose said:

, but our bodies are 100% designed to live off vegetables.

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If humans were meant to eat just veg, we'd have jaw muscles like gorillas - which we don't (gorillas are the only truly vegetarian apes). We have versatile dentition, and are designed to be omnivores.

BabyBoss said:

I'm not sure on the horse.

I know my own horses though. We've ridden really hard in competition before, my gelding was a serious one in his day and he was like a fireball on cross country. If something had happened to him, it would have been an accident. Nothing more, nothing less. I was and am a careful rider, I don't push my horses too hard, they tell me the limit for speed on terrain and I give them the judgement call in rough conditions. As such we made clear courses in conditions other horses fell down in and got hurt because their riders didn't handle it right.

We ride huge and powerful animals. Like us they can get sick. Or simply fall. Rodeo, competition- they aren't for the faint of heart. A thousand pounds of horse at breakneck speed after another thousand of cow bucking with a rider and you need to pull him off because his 8 seconds are up, it's all a balancing act of extreme skill both on the part of the horses and riders involved and the training of the bull.

Sometimes people get hurt. Sometimes horses do. And sometimes bulls. They love what they do though.

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That makes a lot of sense and makes me feel better about it all, thanks.

Although I'm curious - how exactly do you know when you're pushing them too hard, what the limit is, what they want to do in rough terrain/conditions, etc.??

KDOGG331 said:

Okay, so stupid question, if you jumped on a bucking bull in the field, would he start bucking? Or only with the flank string and/or in the ring?

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I don't know about this one, I don't know that anyone has tried it, but, there HAVE been rodeo bronks that could be saddled and bridled like normal and ridden without bucking and then would explode when in their bucking tack. They know when it's time to work and when it's not.

KDOGG331 said:

Although I'm curious - how exactly do you know when you're pushing them too hard, what the limit is, what they want to do in rough terrain/conditions, etc.??

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I have a little Arabian gelding that when he's in shape is the energizer bunny, you spend the entire ride holding him back and all it takes to go cantering off is to let the reins out an inch.... That's the way most event horses are, they are all "GO! GO! GO!" most if not all of the time. If the rough conditions are obvious, I tend to let the horse set the pace, if it's something like mud with leaves on it and they might not know about the mud until it's too late, then I will pull them back to what seems to be a safe speed, that could be a slower canter or it could be a walk, it depends on the terrain, the horse, and if you're just going straight through it or if you are turning or jumping while in the bad terrain.