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Ok, ive been trying to find others who actually use this as a food source as i do for chickens. I cant locate anything. That being the case, i felt a new thread was a good idea.

Ive been feeding this to my ADULT birds for about 6 months now. I live in northern Ohio where we get freezing tedmps and snow for weeks on end. So know that sometimes there is no outdoor time for birds to forage.

Also know that i use a mixture of 1\3 or 1\4 of cracked corn or scratch in the sweet feed.
I expected deficiencies to show up, and expected runny fecies.
The first is not present after 6 months. The second is. This is making deep litter method a challenge, but also is keeping the coop warmer in cold stretches. A wash to my thinking.

Ive also noticed that since the fall molt new feathers appear very glossy and healthy. I did have thin shelled eggs at one point, but disçovered that free fed oyster shell had run out. No telling how long, as prior to change over they seldom used it. Now they go through it rapidly. Even in winter my eggs yolks are rich yellow\orange.

Birds are in good weight. Currently my summer chicks are just starting to lay, no shell problems there. Fertility could be better, but all my males were 6-9 months old. Fertility is getting better now, based on my incubating.

Now understand i feed table scaps 3-4 times a week, and ive got over 60 birds. Birds also have large mulch piles to go through daily.
And i feed a couple hand fulls of cat food when its too cold or snowy for birds to venture out. Probiotics afre also given on occasion.

I think the key to using alternate feeds is to monitor flock and anticipate needs.
My chicks are all fed regular poultry starter feed until they are big enpough to join the flock.

Anyone have any experience with any of this?

Cant find my other BYC account, so had to revert to this one...

My philosophy: if it aint broke, dont fix it. If it aint sick, dont treat it. "Organic" has its place, but not at the expense to the well being of the animal. I vaccinate my children, and I'll vaccinate my animals. If you ask, I'll tell you. If your being nosy, I will tell you so, if your honestly seeking my $.02, I'll honestly...

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Cant find my other BYC account, so had to revert to this one...

My philosophy: if it aint broke, dont fix it. If it aint sick, dont treat it. "Organic" has its place, but not at the expense to the well being of the animal. I vaccinate my children, and I'll vaccinate my animals. If you ask, I'll tell you. If your being nosy, I will tell you so, if your honestly seeking my $.02, I'll honestly...

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What exactly is the sweet feed you're referring to?

 

If it is something like this

 

http://www.tractorsupply.com/tsc/product/producers-pride-10-sweet-feed-50-lb

 

I can't imagine they are getting enough protein after cutting it 1/3 with corn unless they're getting some source of animal protein.


Edited by ChickenCanoe - 2/25/16 at 3:36am

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NPIP 43-813

“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts.

Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime.”                  Mark Twain

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Ok, ive been trying to find others who actually use this as a food source as i do for chickens. I cant locate anything. That being the case, i felt a new thread was a good idea.

Ive been feeding this to my ADULT birds for about 6 months now. I live in northern Ohio where we get freezing tedmps and snow for weeks on end. So know that sometimes there is no outdoor time for birds to forage.

Also know that i use a mixture of 1\3 or 1\4 of cracked corn or scratch in the sweet feed.
I expected deficiencies to show up, and expected runny fecies.
The first is not present after 6 months. The second is. This is making deep litter method a challenge, but also is keeping the coop warmer in cold stretches. A wash to my thinking.

Ive also noticed that since the fall molt new feathers appear very glossy and healthy. I did have thin shelled eggs at one point, but disçovered that free fed oyster shell had run out. No telling how long, as prior to change over they seldom used it. Now they go through it rapidly. Even in winter my eggs yolks are rich yellow\orange.

Birds are in good weight. Currently my summer chicks are just starting to lay, no shell problems there. Fertility could be better, but all my males were 6-9 months old. Fertility is getting better now, based on my incubating.

Now understand i feed table scaps 3-4 times a week, and ive got over 60 birds. Birds also have large mulch piles to go through daily.
And i feed a couple hand fulls of cat food when its too cold or snowy for birds to venture out. Probiotics afre also given on occasion.

I think the key to using alternate feeds is to monitor flock and anticipate needs.
My chicks are all fed regular poultry starter feed until they are big enpough to join the flock.

Anyone have any experience with any of this?

It really helps to know your climate for discussion on feeding and housing....


ONly have experience feeding it to horses.  Sweet feed has molasses in it with most of the sugar removed.  Its an excellent source of minerals and yes promotes a very healthy coat.  But its an out dated feed.  There are better products out there for horses.  Adding sugar to a diet invites problems such as incresed gut biotics obesity and sometimes behavior issues.   Obesity will lower egg production.

 

What you may do is analyze the amount of sweet feed you are using percentage wise.  Reduce that percentage some in increments till you achieve less loose poos.   But to be honest I wouldnt feed it.

 

IF you are trying to keep it warmer in the coop though have you tried plain old Alfalfa as a supplement.   I feed year round a Flake of alfalfa for about twenty birds every month or so.  They love to disassemble it and eat the leaves.  Its loaded with calcium and minerals as well.  And gives those eggs a nice color.

 

My birds dont have any greens to forage on most of the year.   Right now is my green season which lasts probably through march then it all dies off. High desert gets cold in the winter time but my coops are open air.  dont do deep litter because its too dry here.    The best I can do is a roof and wind break... 

 

By the way I do supplement one scoop in five with Cat fish chow.  Its a pellet and provides the animal protien that my Guineas crave.  It was recommended by a person who raises exotics for zooos.  She said it was a very controlled way to supplement.

deb


Edited by perchie.girl - 2/25/16 at 3:41am

Past poultry: Buff Brhama, EE, Barred rock, Wellsummer,

Bantam mixes, Araucana, Turkeys, & Guinea Fowl.

Future poultry:  Guinea Fowl, Sumatra, Wellsummer, Muscovy

"A dream without a plan is just a wish" Katherine Paterson

Regarding the horses in our lives

 

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Past poultry: Buff Brhama, EE, Barred rock, Wellsummer,

Bantam mixes, Araucana, Turkeys, & Guinea Fowl.

Future poultry:  Guinea Fowl, Sumatra, Wellsummer, Muscovy

"A dream without a plan is just a wish" Katherine Paterson

Regarding the horses in our lives

 

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Hi ...    :frow  @ChickenCanoe  probably had forgotten more about chickens than I will ever know

 

deb

Past poultry: Buff Brhama, EE, Barred rock, Wellsummer,

Bantam mixes, Araucana, Turkeys, & Guinea Fowl.

Future poultry:  Guinea Fowl, Sumatra, Wellsummer, Muscovy

"A dream without a plan is just a wish" Katherine Paterson

Regarding the horses in our lives

 

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Past poultry: Buff Brhama, EE, Barred rock, Wellsummer,

Bantam mixes, Araucana, Turkeys, & Guinea Fowl.

Future poultry:  Guinea Fowl, Sumatra, Wellsummer, Muscovy

"A dream without a plan is just a wish" Katherine Paterson

Regarding the horses in our lives

 

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