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post #11 of 15
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Yes Robbie seems nice via phone.  I would have liked to talk longer but he was busy with getting orders out and shipped.  I didnt want to hang him up so I didnt engage him in a long conversation...  

The first time I spoke with Robbie, I had pen and paper and I was writing down as much as I could as fast as I could.  During my phone conversation, his phone died ten minutes into the call.  Three minutes later, he called me back on a different phone.  I think my total time on the phone that day lasted 45 minutes.  A few days later, out of the blue, he called me back.  Just my opinion (and I may be wrong), but I honestly don't think he minds taking the time to pass along information to help out quail owners.  His reputation is at stake every time he ships an order, and he knows that a happy quail owner will recommend others to him.  Also, he's done more for the cotunix quail for the community than most other breeders out there.  I really wish he had the time to put together a book on quail.

James

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post #12 of 15

Always call Robby, it's faster for him than email.  He's a busy man with many projects so it's best to communicate with him in a manner that efficiently uses his time.  We are so lucky to have him in our hobby!

 

@Lobzi please keep ups updated with your new project.  Can't wait to see what you hatch out of those eggs and how you set them up!

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In case you all are interested  here is what I finally got back from him.  I was so grateful that he took the time to clarify the possible contents of the order.

 

 

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 Celadon "ce gene" Coturnix Eggs
These eggs are also know as Blue Coturnix eggs. The eggs will hatch different color chicks including the Schofield Silver lines which include Silver , Blue, Lavender, Cream, Slate, Blue Barred, Charcoal, Wild Type, Rosetta, Recessive White, Albino & Roux 
I'm crossing Celadon egg producing hens over Roux Males so about half that hatch are Roux. I'm working on developing a line of Roux Dilute With the "ce" gene.

I'm also at the same time working on a Blue line & a Tibetan a Tuxedo line. Hopefully one line will produce more hens that lay the Celadon eggs than others. There is not much information online about the "ce" gene. Several Researchers have told me they feel it's the rarest gene in Coturnix Quail. One thing I'm noticing and has been confirmed by a professor who studied the gene & eggs is that they tend to have more of a shape like Bobwhite eggs. Nobody understands why - but something I want to continue studying. 
Pleas note: not all hens that hatch from Celadon eggs will lay Celadon Color eggs - but the shells of those hens will be "Most times" Blue on the inside and that egg & hen can produce hens that lay Celadon eggs also.....a hen that displays the "ce" gene laying blue eggs will lay Celadon color eggs every time she lays a egg. When they start laying the eggs may have very tiny spots on the egg that feel like raised dry ink when you touch it but as the hens continues to lay the spots disappear. Some hens will lay a blue egg with tiny spots over the egg every time...I'm working on a line of these also...there is pictures on my Facebook page of egg color and patterns if you want to see what I'm talking about."

 

He also said he was sorry for taking so long to answer my email requesting info on the order.  I know he is busy and I appreciate him taking the time that he did to share this info with me.  I will share pics.  If I get even 30% hatch from the sixty eggs that will be more than enough new quail for me.  My main hope is for some blue ones.  That is what I had planning to order...just 24 blues.  Im thinking of getting some bantam quail some day too.  I just love them all so much and when they look different I can easily name them, keep track of them, and watch as they grow and mature.  Im looking forward to the difference I might see from the Celadon eggs.  Breeding and experimenting with the different colors is interesting but Im not set up for keeping them separate. My large aviary houses them all together so any fertile eggs I get from my group of wild pharaoh, golden, and whites are true surprise packages.

 

Here is one of mysurprises:

I call her Monkey Face because I think her little face looks like a monkey.

-Robin-
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post #14 of 15

I've hatched 400+ celadon eggs, 2 colonys, 3 different generations from robby and each hatch is different. The most recent(like yours) should contain a fair amount of roux30-50% and the rest is random. I thought it was cool when I bred my golden male to wild hens. the celadon eggs can produce more then the imagination these bird are so interesting and diverse. I would not recommend them to commercial farmers they are fancy quail for sure.

post #15 of 15

I'm new to quail this year. I knew that quail could lay a blue egg, but I wasn't aware that there was any significance attached.  One of my quail laid a blue egg earlier this year, but there hasn't been another.  Does this mean that the hen is not laying or can a quail hen lay eggs that are different colors?

 

Also, do all blue eggs hatch these special colors or am I misunderstanding something?

Elisabeth
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