Pullets at what cost? (...not in dollars and cents) - Page 3
The problem with supporting an argument with religion on mixed boards like this is that it effectively ends the conversation.
If I disagree with you, I have only a couple choices:
1. I walk away.
2. I concede to your religious beliefs
3. I start attacking the basis for your argument - your religious beliefs.
All of these end any effective exchange of information.
As to your comment about things sounding gross - that's exactly it - people who haven't grown up with (or become accustomed to) the inner workings of our food system (or creating food on their own) very often are unable to separate their squeamishness and aversion to physical violence from their sense of what is humane.
We see this very often in the meat forum, or in the health forums where people need to put down sick birds - they'll go to all sorts of lengths to find ways to kill the bird without violence (on the idea that its not humane) - people do absolutely terrible things to animals thinking they're doing something good - just because they're squeamish. The truth is - the fastest death is usually the most humane - and the fastest death is often achieved by inflicting significant physical trauma.
The grinders they use on chicks are spinning at several thousand RPM - and it only takes probably a quarter revolution to kill a chick. We're talking about a couple hundredths of a second.
Male livestock get a pretty short shake - from veal calves in the milk industry, to ram lambs going to market, etc. Generally females are kept, males are slaughtered at a young age.
Yes that is exactly it and you said it much better than I could have! I could not think of why people would think something was inhumane and you exactly said it - violence is perceived as painful.
I absolutely agree, it seems gross or cruel but it stresses the animals out having them on a block or wherever else a long time. It stresses them taking time to talk to them and do it slow. A shot takes a while to course through the body and I imagine is painful. Plus sometimes it doesn't even work and they have to redo it. Could you imagine? Gassing, drowning, and poison I feel like EVERYONE can agree truly ARE inhumane. Violence is fast and easy and I am sure the animal would rather have that.
It seems cruel but if it takes less than one second then that's a lot better.
But yes, males definitely do and I feel that's why people get upset by it and imo, rightfully so. I wisb they kept more males or more people wanted them
Interesting question and discussion. I myself have no qualms about purchasing pullets and sending the male chicks off to be used for feed or fertilizer. It's the way of the world and has been for a long, long time.
As for grinding them, it's swift and that means less painful for the chick, which has no clue anyway at a few hours of age.
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