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I started this chicken obsession with wanting to raise heritage Rhode Island Reds. As some of you may know, you can't just go down to the local Tractor Supply Company store and get heritage birds, or even get them from a hatchery.

 

Seeing how this website is partially responsible for my obsession, well mostly responsible. I figured I would seek help from it's members in finding good specimens of this breed. I was pleasantly pleased to find this task easy to do as most members in the Heritage Rhode Island Red forum were more than happy to help. http://www.backyardchickens.com/t/407294/the-heritage-rhode-island-red-site

 

 I was able to find a great breeder of these Reds within a few hours driving distance. I purchased 2 breeding pairs. I had also found a breeder willing to ship fertile eggs from her champion stock. Luckily both sources share the same bloodlines so it should not complicate things too much if the lines are bred to one another.

 

I purchased a dozen eggs from the breeder in Florida, http://www.hilltop-farm.info/store. She shipped extra eggs to help cover any losses. And that was a good thing with how things turned out with the U.S postal service.

 

 

I guess the words fragile and this end up translates to smash and store sideways in postal language.

 

Despite the damage to the box and having it stuffed sideways in the mailbox, none of the eggs were broken thanks to the way they were packed.

 

 

 

After carefully removing the eggs, I candled them to check for loose air sacks . 9 of the 20 eggs had loose air sacs and 7 of those were saddled at my day 7 candling.

With all my time lurking the forums I had found the information I needed to deal with this common situation when dealing with shipped eggs. http://www.backyardchickens.com/a/hatching-eggs-101 is a great article in the learning center

 

I was using a Hova-Bator 1588 with digital readout and 2 other thermometers to track temperature. The Hova-Bator claims to to be calibrated at the factory and does not need adjustment. The 2 other thermometers showed a 2-3 degree difference. Not wanting to cook my eggs I dropped the temp in the Bator 2 degrees and hoped for the best.

 

Day 19, 2 days early I get my first pip. I read that 1 deg difference can affect hatch times by 24 hours. on day 20 the rest hatch.

After I cleaned out and sterilized the incubator I tested the temperature with the 2 thermometers again, this time it matched the reading on the digital readout of the incubator.

 

And that's when it hit me, "the turning tray makes the eggs sit 2 inches higher than the screen floor of the incubator" If the incubator was calibrated to provide 99 deg temp at floor level then at 2 inches higher it would put the eggs closer to the heating element making it hotter.

 

Now I can start my next hatch with the correct temp instead of running high the first 5 days.

 

Despite all the issues I had with my very first hatch, the damaged shipping box, the overheating, I still ended up hatching 14 of the 20 eggs I received. :ep

I was shocked, from what I read about the reliability of shipped eggs and all the problems that can occur, loose air sacks, scrambled, cracks I was hoping to get at least 5 to hatch.

 

I wont take the credit for almost 75% hatch rate, the credit goes to the great eggs and packing from the breeder and all the great folks willing to share in their knowledge on how to successfully breed chickens and deal with the complications. 

 

And now for some pictures.....

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

post #2 of 5

Thanks for posting pics of the chicks. Mine are due to hatch on Thursday.

 

I did tell the post office here about the box being damaged when you received it. They said they were surprised. Other customers in there spoke up and said that all at one time or another have had boxes damages during shipping. The teller said that most of the handling is done with machines now. I say it's was just another excuse. I guess I'll start putting labels on the bottom of the boxes too, that's the only side I haven't put a label. The labels clearly state what's in the box and to handle carefully. I just shipped more eggs out today. We will see how they end up.


Edited by cmom - 4/4/16 at 11:39pm

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HEY LOOK!!!
UPCOMING FLORIDA Swaps/Sales/Shows/Events - Georgia Too
Click Here --->  FLORIDA!!!!!ALWAYS SUNNY SIDE UP!!!  (BYC Florida Members Page)
Pure Single Comb & Rose Comb Rhode Island Reds, Rose Comb Rhode Island Whites & Leghorns.

Member of the American Poultry Association, the Rhode Island Red Club of America, &

Central Florida Poultry Breeders Association. NPIP Certified Participant

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Originally Posted by onarres View Post
 

I started this chicken obsession with wanting to raise heritage Rhode Island Reds. As some of you may know, you can't just go down to the local Tractor Supply Company store and get heritage birds, or even get them from a hatchery.

 

Seeing how this website is partially responsible for my obsession, well mostly responsible. I figured I would seek help from it's members in finding good specimens of this breed. I was pleasantly pleased to find this task easy to do as most members in the Heritage Rhode Island Red forum were more than happy to help. http://www.backyardchickens.com/t/407294/the-heritage-rhode-island-red-site

 

 I was able to find a great breeder of these Reds within a few hours driving distance. I purchased 2 breeding pairs. I had also found a breeder willing to ship fertile eggs from her champion stock. Luckily both sources share the same bloodlines so it should not complicate things too much if the lines are bred to one another.

 

I purchased a dozen eggs from the breeder in Florida, http://www.hilltop-farm.info/store. She shipped extra eggs to help cover any losses. And that was a good thing with how things turned out with the U.S postal service.

 

 

I guess the words fragile and this end up translates to smash and store sideways in postal language.

 

Despite the damage to the box and having it stuffed sideways in the mailbox, none of the eggs were broken thanks to the way they were packed.

 

 

 

After carefully removing the eggs, I candled them to check for loose air sacks . 9 of the 20 eggs had loose air sacs and 7 of those were saddled at my day 7 candling.

With all my time lurking the forums I had found the information I needed to deal with this common situation when dealing with shipped eggs. http://www.backyardchickens.com/a/hatching-eggs-101 is a great article in the learning center

 

I was using a Hova-Bator 1588 with digital readout and 2 other thermometers to track temperature. The Hova-Bator claims to to be calibrated at the factory and does not need adjustment. The 2 other thermometers showed a 2-3 degree difference. Not wanting to cook my eggs I dropped the temp in the Bator 2 degrees and hoped for the best.

 

Day 19, 2 days early I get my first pip. I read that 1 deg difference can affect hatch times by 24 hours. on day 20 the rest hatch.

After I cleaned out and sterilized the incubator I tested the temperature with the 2 thermometers again, this time it matched the reading on the digital readout of the incubator.

 

And that's when it hit me, "the turning tray makes the eggs sit 2 inches higher than the screen floor of the incubator" If the incubator was calibrated to provide 99 deg temp at floor level then at 2 inches higher it would put the eggs closer to the heating element making it hotter.

 

Now I can start my next hatch with the correct temp instead of running high the first 5 days.

 

Despite all the issues I had with my very first hatch, the damaged shipping box, the overheating, I still ended up hatching 14 of the 20 eggs I received. :ep

I was shocked, from what I read about the reliability of shipped eggs and all the problems that can occur, loose air sacks, scrambled, cracks I was hoping to get at least 5 to hatch.

 

I wont take the credit for almost 75% hatch rate, the credit goes to the great eggs and packing from the breeder and all the great folks willing to share in their knowledge on how to successfully breed chickens and deal with the complications. 

 

And now for some pictures.....

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Those are some beautiful chicks! It's amazing how much difference good packaging can make, and you have living proof! Thanks for posting this, I have a couple dozen eggs coming from cmom, and it's comforting to know they're very well protected for the journey. I'll know how well they fare when Thursday gets here... at least that's when they're scheduled to arrive.   :fl

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Jack of all trades... master of none. I know a little about everything... and a lot about nothing. I is what I are...

 

3 Production Reds - 1 Red Sexlink - 1 Brown Leghorn - 7 Barred Plymouth Rocks - 12 Standard Single Comb Rhode Island Reds - and - 1 Standard Rose Comb Rhode Island Red

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post #4 of 5
Mw eggs arrived last Wednesday, and I was relieved to find none were broken. There were several loosened air cells, but not excessively loose. No air cells were rolling, so that's very encouraging. I'll be candling all 30 eggs tomorrow evening, but the couple I sneaked a peek at yesterday showed veining... another good sign! I split the eggs up. I put the eggs wit . the best looking air cells in my IncuView, which rolls the eggs. The wobbly air cell eggs went in my refrigerbator which has tilting trays. I waited 24 hours before turning on the turners.



Jack of all trades... master of none. I know a little about everything... and a lot about nothing. I is what I are...

 

3 Production Reds - 1 Red Sexlink - 1 Brown Leghorn - 7 Barred Plymouth Rocks - 12 Standard Single Comb Rhode Island Reds - and - 1 Standard Rose Comb Rhode Island Red

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Jack of all trades... master of none. I know a little about everything... and a lot about nothing. I is what I are...

 

3 Production Reds - 1 Red Sexlink - 1 Brown Leghorn - 7 Barred Plymouth Rocks - 12 Standard Single Comb Rhode Island Reds - and - 1 Standard Rose Comb Rhode Island Red

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Originally Posted by Ur-ur-ur-urrr View Post

Mw eggs arrived last Wednesday, and I was relieved to find none were broken. There were several loosened air cells, but not excessively loose. No air cells were rolling, so that's very encouraging. I'll be candling all 30 eggs tomorrow evening, but the couple I sneaked a peek at yesterday showed veining... another good sign! I split the eggs up. I put the eggs wit . the best looking air cells in my IncuView, which rolls the eggs. The wobbly air cell eggs went in my refrigerbator which has tilting trays. I waited 24 hours before turning on the turners.



I do the same thing. If I get shipped eggs I do put them in my incubator ASAP but don't turn on the turner until the next day.

HEY LOOK!!!
UPCOMING FLORIDA Swaps/Sales/Shows/Events - Georgia Too
Click Here --->  FLORIDA!!!!!ALWAYS SUNNY SIDE UP!!!  (BYC Florida Members Page)
Pure Single Comb & Rose Comb Rhode Island Reds, Rose Comb Rhode Island Whites & Leghorns.

Member of the American Poultry Association, the Rhode Island Red Club of America, &

Central Florida Poultry Breeders Association. NPIP Certified Participant

Reply

HEY LOOK!!!
UPCOMING FLORIDA Swaps/Sales/Shows/Events - Georgia Too
Click Here --->  FLORIDA!!!!!ALWAYS SUNNY SIDE UP!!!  (BYC Florida Members Page)
Pure Single Comb & Rose Comb Rhode Island Reds, Rose Comb Rhode Island Whites & Leghorns.

Member of the American Poultry Association, the Rhode Island Red Club of America, &

Central Florida Poultry Breeders Association. NPIP Certified Participant

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