Originally Posted by elaineinspain
Another one has died!
10 hours ago, before I went to bed they both seemed fine!
Could it be the coccidosis that you mentioned aart? where does that come from? have I given it to them? are they born with it?
My husband spoke to the man at the hatchery last night and he said that chicks often die when they are so young, and that he did recommend to us to get them when they are older .
Is this true that chicks just die from being young?
Originally Posted by aart
66F is fine for room temp...and it looks like they're inside the house so I doubt any serious 'drafts' are at play.
They should be plenty warm going under the plate if they need it.....you would hear loud cheeping if they were too cold, did you hear that?
The tote might get too warm overall, I would recommend against it.
As to why those chicks died, it's very hard to tell...coccidosis is usually the first suspect in chicks that young.
Did you see any bloody stool?.....tho that is not always present.
Do you think we should go to a different hatchery to get replacements, after cleaning out the brooder? Or will the last surviving one be able to infect the newbies somehow?
This is my first experience with chickens and it's turning into a heartbreaking nightmare...
I'm so sorry you're having such a terrible first experience.
As to why the chicks died, it's very hard to tell. Without specific symptoms the only way to know for sure would be a necropsy from a poultry lab, not sure if that's an option for you. I assume from your username that you are in Spain? Here in the US there are state labs that can provide this service, sometimes for free sometimes quite expensive.
Coccidiosis is often present but in numbers too low to cause problems because they build an immunity to it, it's why folks often use chick starter with a medication(amprolium) in it to help the chicks build that immunity. My first thought was go with a different supplier, but the remaining chick may be carrying something.
I'm not real comfortable with what the 'hatchery guy' said. It's true that tiny chicks can fail to thrive and die in the first few days or so, but buying older birds can be riskier as far as carrying diseases in with them. It all depends on the facility where they were hatched and raised....again I don't know how things work over there or what kind of 'hatchery' you're buying from. Over here large commercial hatcheries are pretty stringent with disease control and will refund money if many chicks die in a purchased order of day olds. Smaller or private 'hatcheries' can be a whole different story.
Sorry I don't have any finite solutions to offer....I would be torn as to whether the chicks came in with something or your brooder setup has a problem.
It's so hard to tell over the net.
Originally Posted by JadedPhoenix
Do you have a thermometer under your ecoglow? Do you know the temp underneath? To me, it sounds like they aren't able to stay warm enough. I had a friend who recently lost a whole batch one chick at a time due to not giving them enough heat. It may be that your ecoglow may be the source of some of your problems. Remember, the general rule is 95 degrees for the first week and lower temps by 5 degrees each week until fully feathered.
I don't abide by the 5 degrees a week rule....they can go cooler than that (too warm is more likely to cause problems) and judging temps needed by chick behavior is the way to go. Can be hard for a beginner, but doable.
You also can't really measure the temp using a plate like you can with a lamp because they heat the chicks differently.