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post #11 of 17

In a nutshell, excess calcium over time causes kidney damage, can lead to gout and calcification of other organs and tissues. Excess has to be processed by the kidneys. Eventually kidney segments become atrophied and non-functional. There are 2 kidneys with 3 segments each. A bird can appear normal and continue laying while damage accumulates as long as there are 2 functioning segments. Once one of those last 2 segments fails, a chicken can die within 24 hours with the only symptoms depression, weight loss, darkened head, white pasty diarrhea, attempting to hide or simply sudden death. The truth is, most people with a bird that dies suddenly, shrug it off and don't get a necropsy - never suspecting diet.

http://poultryinfo.co.za/articles/Old/avian-urolithiasis-eng.pdf

Because of the high productivity of modern hens as opposed to jungle fowl, there is a complex relationship between calcium, phosphorus, vitamin D3 and the hormonal system of the layer in calcium metabolism during the lay cycle. Calcium and phosphorus balance is critical for proper egg production and eggshell quality. Layer ration should be formulated with correct amount of calcium and phosphorus (usually 3.5 - 4.0% calcium, 0.35-0.40% phosphorus

https://mikethechickenvet.wordpress.com/2012/07/10/bones-shells-and-hen-health/

Birds not building eggs shells daily, do fine on 1-2% calcium. 4% replaces that lost in the medullary bone when they deposit 2 grams of calcium in each egg shell. That 2 grams is the majority of the calcium in the bloodstream at any time.

 

Roosters, since they don't build egg shells are at particular risk. On breeder farms where roosters don't have separate feed systems, roosters die at 4 times the rate of hens due largely to lithiasis and gout.

http://www.thepoultrysite.com/articles/2337/urolithiasis-in-male-broiler-breeders/

 

http://www.poultryshowcentral.com/chicken_gout.html


Edited by ChickenCanoe - 5/28/16 at 4:26am

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post #12 of 17

so what am I to do cant find an organic pellet that is NOT LAYER FEED....

  I having been mixing my own occ give them some. get soft egg shell rather i am giving them layer feed or not. cause I believe they have say Clost. perfinges......

   I have been giving them Octetracline from TSC for almost a week....

read about Baytril and ronda something....

Is the 1 and 1/8 tsp per qt. dose the higher doage????

  course dont even want to give that.....

 tried the rooster booster triple wormer.... they leave it

SICK OF loose poo and soft shells

post #13 of 17

You at least need a fecal sample read to see what in the digestive tract is causing the loose poo.

Mixing your own can throw off the delicate balance of calcium to phosphorus to vitamin D3.

 

Why are you concerned about organic feed if you are simultaneously medicating with antibiotics and anthelmintics? Conventional feed is better than giving drugs.

And what are those meds intended to treat?


Edited by ChickenCanoe - 5/30/16 at 4:36pm

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post #14 of 17

 I have 1 chicken  (flock of 5) that has had persistent matting around the anal area.  I've tried soaking her in water and gently removing the waste matter, but it just keeps coming back.  The other chickens had picked on her and pulled feather's out.   I separated her once, and cleaned it up the best I could, but it didn't help.  Now she rarely runs, but can - I suspect it hurts her to run, and it looks terrible.  Any ideas on how to help this old girl?

 

ps the biting files were attacking her bottom today.  I am going to try the vanilla car deodorizes in the coop and see if that helps.  Supposedly flies hate the vanilla smell.


Edited by Belinda7 - 5/30/16 at 6:12pm
post #15 of 17

Again, when you have a feces issue, you need a fecal sample read so you know what is wrong. It could be 100 different things so without lab work, anyone would just be guessing.

 

 

Be careful with any type of fumigant. If it is strong enough to repel flies, it is strong enough to affect chickens' tiny respiratory systems.

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Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime.”                  Mark Twain

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post #16 of 17

cause nothing helps..... 100 of things yeah.... it could be. DO you take a fecal sample evertime?   I be going quite often...

   I dont wanna give them any such stuff. But they are all ...ALL.. ALL..slowly getting the loose poo with undigested stuff,, egg shells are getting softer. One  has soft shell eggs every evening for weeks now......

LIKE I TOLD YALL before these **** vets dont wanna mess with chickens.....

   Baby Girl looks like she is wasting away......prob PERF> COLUMSTRUM.... fits the descripition

PLUs how you keep chickens from constntly looking and eating worms, etc.....????

   

If I knew what I knew now I wouldnt have  wasted thousand of dollars and lack of sleep,  forgoing my own health and peace of mind.  The chicken thing would never have happened. If I could give them to a good home I do it right this minute and have a REAL life again....

 

I even spent HUndreds dollars on a microscope ..I havent even opened the box...

So whats the next step? since this" Oxytr." stuff isnt helping..... BG now sound like she has a "cold"too.

so do i graduate to the big stuff "BAYTRIL"  ???

 It might have cured her and she might not have passed it on.....

Plus this blankey blank rain almost everyday does not help.

    WE ARE WHAT WE EAT....people..

..yall know that in your hearts. So why do we give our poor animals that evil SoY and let Lifestock grains be sprayed with all kind of junk. Dont say it isnt...... cause I have been listening to health radio shows etc  and reading for years

 I pray that something happens soon,,,,,,


Edited by ladyearth - 6/1/16 at 2:01pm
post #17 of 17
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Originally Posted by Belinda7 View Post
 

 I have 1 chicken  (flock of 5) that has had persistent matting around the anal area.  I've tried soaking her in water and gently removing the waste matter, but it just keeps coming back.  The other chickens had picked on her and pulled feather's out.   I separated her once, and cleaned it up the best I could, but it didn't help.  Now she rarely runs, but can - I suspect it hurts her to run, and it looks terrible.  Any ideas on how to help this old girl?

 

ps the biting files were attacking her bottom today.  I am going to try the vanilla car deodorizes in the coop and see if that helps.  Supposedly flies hate the vanilla smell.

be careful PLEASE

My Goldie almost died from Flystrike. My Hubby and  and me saved her twice, by the grace of God too....  So every  night is a Butt check for all of them

Goldie has a big Bare spot where her feathers have never grown back. Only good thing its easier to clean her butt....

Hubby puts Blue Kote on her butt quite often.. thank goodness they arent penned like most poor chickens...cause I see others quite often peck at her even though she is the biggest....

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