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They are Appenzellers silver and gold and two Welsummers










And then the second welsummer:


Edited by zaapoole - 5/30/16 at 5:50am
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My instincts suspect that the Welsummers are pullets, but as to the Spitz, I would have to see pictures of their "pimples." Those are the two little points that make up their comb.

~Alex

"For You, O Lord, are good and ready to forgive;

And abundant in lovingkindness and overflowing in mercy to all those who call upon You." Psalm 86:5

 

Happy owner of 37 wonderful hens, 2 amazing roosters, 21 chickies, 2 bantam quacklings, 5 interesting ducks, 1 unfriendly drake, 4 furry kitties, and 5 crabby parakeets! 

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"For You, O Lord, are good and ready to forgive;

And abundant in lovingkindness and overflowing in mercy to all those who call upon You." Psalm 86:5

 

Happy owner of 37 wonderful hens, 2 amazing roosters, 21 chickies, 2 bantam quacklings, 5 interesting ducks, 1 unfriendly drake, 4 furry kitties, and 5 crabby parakeets! 

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Thanks very much! Unfortunately I think I already have one rooster so I'm hoping the appenzellers are both pullets
I tried to get a better image but sorry f not






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Originally Posted by zaapoole View Post

They are Appenzellers silver and gold and two Welsummers










And then the second welsummer:

I think you may have 2 boy Welsummers, I've added pictures for comparison.

First row is a female chick, 3 weeks

Second row is a male chick, 3 weeks

Third row is male/female together as of today at 8 weeks

 

 

Here's a little girl Welsummer at 3 weeks- notice the neck feathers are salmon colored and she's got a really clear "mask" over the eye.

 

 

Here's a little boy Welsummer, also 3 weeks old- note the red/black chest feathers and the very faint "mask" around the eyes... but red/black feathers are the determinant factor as I understand it.

 

 

 

 

And here they are today, a little over 8 weeks

Pullet is on top, roo is on bottom

 

 

Individual close-ups:

1st: Pullet- she still has those salmon colored neck/chest feathers,   2nd: Cockerel: Much redder, comb, wattles red

20 layers of various breeds, 1 rooster, and four F2 Super Blues- 2 pullets and 2 cockerels at 15 weeks old, and 16 chicks who jumped into my cart at the feed store!
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20 layers of various breeds, 1 rooster, and four F2 Super Blues- 2 pullets and 2 cockerels at 15 weeks old, and 16 chicks who jumped into my cart at the feed store!
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The Welsummers are definitely female. No black on the chest at all. The Appenzellers need a few more weeks. 

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I'm on the fence about the Welsummers, but I'm leaning towards cockerels on both... first has pink wattles starting and at 4 weeks that's a bit early for a pullet... second has very dark red chest feathers, and I've seen many hatchery Welsummer cockerels just have dark red instead of black chests...

The Appenzwllers I have no clue about...
~ So Dark the Con of Man ~


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~ So Dark the Con of Man ~


"Man is not what he thinks he is, he is what he hides..." ~ Andre Malraux
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Any updated photos?

20 layers of various breeds, 1 rooster, and four F2 Super Blues- 2 pullets and 2 cockerels at 15 weeks old, and 16 chicks who jumped into my cart at the feed store!
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20 layers of various breeds, 1 rooster, and four F2 Super Blues- 2 pullets and 2 cockerels at 15 weeks old, and 16 chicks who jumped into my cart at the feed store!
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post #8 of 14
Thread Starter 
Thanks for the replies this is an update at just under six weeks. I think the appenzellers are cockerels - I will put pictures of the silver just to confirm but the gold one started trying to crow this morning so that's a definite!






The first welsummer has more of a brown chest whereas the second one has a salmon coloured chest











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The first Welsummer looks like a cockerel as far as color goes, but yet the comb isn't developed and pink yet. :hu I'm not an expert, so I don't really know what to think. The Spitz is definitely a cockerel, and a very handsome one! :love  My girls' wattles are still flat and faintly pink at about 13 weeks. 

 

~Alex


Edited by Alexandra33 - 6/8/16 at 8:27am

"For You, O Lord, are good and ready to forgive;

And abundant in lovingkindness and overflowing in mercy to all those who call upon You." Psalm 86:5

 

Happy owner of 37 wonderful hens, 2 amazing roosters, 21 chickies, 2 bantam quacklings, 5 interesting ducks, 1 unfriendly drake, 4 furry kitties, and 5 crabby parakeets! 

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"For You, O Lord, are good and ready to forgive;

And abundant in lovingkindness and overflowing in mercy to all those who call upon You." Psalm 86:5

 

Happy owner of 37 wonderful hens, 2 amazing roosters, 21 chickies, 2 bantam quacklings, 5 interesting ducks, 1 unfriendly drake, 4 furry kitties, and 5 crabby parakeets! 

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Originally Posted by Alexandra33 View Post
 

The first Welsummer looks like a cockerel as far as color goes, but yet the comb isn't developed and pink yet. :hu I'm not an expert, so I don't really know what to think. The Spitz is definitely a cockerel, and a very handsome one! :love  My girls' wattles are still flat and faintly pink at about 13 weeks. 

 

~Alex


I love the Spitz' eyes!  So big and expressive!

 

Still leaning towards boy on the first Welsummer too, though one of our pullets *did* have more of a reddish chest and a darker body all around at this age, so it's not impossible, just neither of our girls had that level of comb or wattle development that early ...-- the other one seems to have pullet coloring despite the comb and wattle development.

 

Maybe we've just got radically different lines of Welsummers.

 

Here's our reddish, darker Welsummer pullet at 6 weeks (left) next to our Welsummer cockerel at 6 weeks (right)

 

20 layers of various breeds, 1 rooster, and four F2 Super Blues- 2 pullets and 2 cockerels at 15 weeks old, and 16 chicks who jumped into my cart at the feed store!
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20 layers of various breeds, 1 rooster, and four F2 Super Blues- 2 pullets and 2 cockerels at 15 weeks old, and 16 chicks who jumped into my cart at the feed store!
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