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And for hawks really fishing line crisscrossed in tight enough webbing will stop them from dive bombing a bird. That's a inexpensive top to deter hawks. Search around this site and you'll see how effective or not that is. Basically if the bird is hungry enough it can land on fence then drop between the fishing line to try and take on a bird one on one ground level. That's one very hunger hawk to jeopardize it's safety like that. That or you have small docile birds like Silkie that are just begging to be attacked. 

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Let me see if I've a photo to show just how big of a run that is...

 

 

 

 

Nope, guess not. Well, think over 40 X 40 feet that is portable to keep moving to new forage and around trees and bushes. Do love this netting but cheaper option is polywire on fixed run.  

 

Here's my bee bunker to deter bear- was tested the first night and held up. Now has a bathroom door on it that says "Thank you for not smoking". Four strands of poly wire with plastic stand offs and three gate handles.

 

 

 

 

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Wow, and no predator problems? I found some electric wire on TSC's website, so now I just need to measure the fence and get what I need.

 

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If your ground is frozen in winter just disconnect the low wire that will get covered in snow anyway and ground out. Diggers can't go through icy ground so that wire is not needed in winter. The wire is easy to connect. By wrapping around another wire and tying it you've effectively added another wire. Untie it and leave in place until the snow melts then retie. You can use clips and all sorts of things too. I just use it off the roll in one length starting at top go around then come down to next level going around and down and so on. For a gate left opening then tied the strands that would make the gate after with short lengths. For winter you'd have a tied or clipped on connection for the low wire. Just keep winter and gate in mind when installing. I put the electric on the bee bunker from nailing stand offs to pounding in the ground rod and connecting took less than an hour to install. When I say it was tested I mean a bear came and tried to reach in to hives by pulling the welded wire off. Well that pulled it out enough to make contact with the poly wire and shock the bear that was standing on old tin roofing. Worked like a charm! Have the top wire so it can't stand up and push the entire thing over.

Alright, that sounds good. The door to the fence is about, oh, maybe a foot or so off the ground, so I shouldn't have trouble. We'll see, I guess

Haha that bear must've been surprised!

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You don't stop weasels getting into a run.

IMO, a fully enclosed 1/2" hardware cloth run with a buried skirt goes a long towards preventing them from gaining entry over simply not trying to stop them at all, just saying...
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If your ground is frozen in winter just disconnect the low wire that will get covered in snow anyway and ground out. Diggers can't go through icy ground so that wire is not needed in winter.

This isn't so black and white... In my area it's quite common to get snow before the ground freezes or even late in the season after the ground thaws, and depending on how mild/harsh the winter is we can go through multiple free thaw cycles with random snow in between... It's not uncommon for us to go from 60°s one day to snow the next, to a thaw the next day...

This is one of the reasons I won't bother with electric, it's too much maintenance for me as a predator protection tool... I understand it works well for some, but some is not all...

Again, I repeat electric is not the fool proof end all that many claim it to be, there are a lot of factors to be considered that weigh in on it's effectiveness at any given time for any given predator...

I'm not saying electric doesn't work, as it does work when it works, but it's also prone to failure in many instances...
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And for hawks really fishing line crisscrossed in tight enough webbing will stop them from dive bombing a bird. That's a inexpensive top to deter hawks. Search around this site and you'll see how effective or not that is. Basically if the bird is hungry enough it can land on fence then drop between the fishing line to try and take on a bird one on one ground level. That's one very hunger hawk to jeopardize it's safety like that. That or you have small docile birds like Silkie that are just begging to be attacked. 

Yeah, I've heard of the fishing line and other things to keep them away, but I want to have welded wire, just in case. 'Cuz, ya know, probably for some odd reason the hawk at my house would be real hungry the day I decided that the chickens were safe from him without a top to their fence. :rolleyes: Plus, since that's how the fox got in, I feel safer with something on top.

 

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This isn't so black and white... In my area it's quite common to get snow before the ground freezes or even late in the season after the ground thaws, and depending on how mild/harsh the winter is we can go through multiple free thaw cycles with random snow in between... It's not uncommon for us to go from 60°s one day to snow the next, to a thaw the next day...

Again, I repeat electric is not the fool proof end all that many claim it to be, there are a lot of factors to be considered that weigh in on it's effectiveness at any given time for any given predator...

I'm not saying electric doesn't work, as it does work when it works, but it's also prone to failure in many instances...

Will the welded wire on top keep the foxes out?

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Will the welded wire on top keep the foxes out?

It should, but one thing to note about most consumer grade welded wire especially the 'garden variety' you get at the big box stores, the welds are not all that strong and one or two broken welds could lead to a hole big enough for entry by a raccoon or what not... I'm not saying the welds will break, but over the years I have seen more than my fair share of broken welds on fencing, in fact I just tossed about 75 feet if welded wire fence that was around my garden this week that was riddled with broken welds...
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It should, but one thing to note about most consumer grade welded wire especially the 'garden variety' you get at the big box stores, the welds are not all that strong and one or two broken welds could lead to a hole big enough for entry by a raccoon or what not... I'm not saying the welds will break, but over the years I have seen more than my fair share of broken welds on fencing, in fact I just tossed about 75 feet if welded wire fence that was around my garden this week that was riddled with broken welds...

I think the stuff I have is pretty good, but, of course, I'll watch for holes anyways. I think it can be set up weekend, so I won't have to worry too much about this happening again. Now ... to catch the fox.

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