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well fine, then we won't answer.  gig.gif



Ahh! Oh no! I will certainly take all the advice I can get! I was pleasantly surprised to have accidentally post here. I cherish everyone on this thread. You guys feel like brothers and sisters to me. <3

We are only human after all.

 

New Chickies!

 

Born 08/16/16

 

2 Marans (1 Black, 1 Blue)

3 Ameraucanas (1 Black, 1 Blue, 1 Splash)

2 Cream Legbar Pullets

1 Olive Egger (Maran x Ameraucana F1)\

21 Bantams

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We are only human after all.

 

New Chickies!

 

Born 08/16/16

 

2 Marans (1 Black, 1 Blue)

3 Ameraucanas (1 Black, 1 Blue, 1 Splash)

2 Cream Legbar Pullets

1 Olive Egger (Maran x Ameraucana F1)\

21 Bantams

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post #7032 of 10479
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I'm currently 4 days in [starting tonight at 5pm] to incubating serama eggs. My first attempt at it I had 2 out of 4 fertile eggs make it to lockdown and died shortly after. I eggsietopsied them. 1 never piped and he other had the tip of its beak through the internal membrane just barely. They were both positioned correctly. They air cells were very large. The eggs were shipped so I had them up in cartons through the incubation process. I ran the humidity around 45% and upped it to 65% during lockdown. Since I've never incubated bantam I was alarmed through the whole process at the large air cells. So, the question I have is, does it only seem like air cells are very large compared to the eggs because their so small? MY hygrometer has been calibrated so I now it's accurate and the chicks weren't 'shrink wraped' when I eggsietopsied them at day 24. What should I do differently this hatch? They're in egg cartons again as they're shipped. I have the humidity at 55%. My bator is a forced air as well.

 

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Ahh! Oh no! I will certainly take all the advice I can get! I was pleasantly surprised to have accidentally post here. I cherish everyone on this thread. You guys feel like brothers and sisters to me. <3

 

Haha, just messing with you.  :hugs

 

I ran my seramas around 38-40% and they did fine, but humidity is such a variable number!  I do think the air cells looked relatively large, compared to full size chicks or even bantams, but I think the egg size does play with our brain a little.  I thought the same about my quail hatches.  Such tiny eggs.  Also with seramas you have to consider the lethal gene factor, and they are pretty dang hard to hatch anyway! 

 

So if you feel like the air cells are way too big, then up the humidity a bit. Unfortunately, you may have to experiment a bit to fine tune them.  You may also consider a little higher humidity in those last 3 days.  I like 70-75% personally.

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post #7033 of 10479
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Haha, just messing with you.  hugs.gif

I ran my seramas around 38-40% and they did fine, but humidity is such a variable number!  I do think the air cells looked relatively large, compared to full size chicks or even bantams, but I think the egg size does play with our brain a little.  I thought the same about my quail hatches.  Such tiny eggs.  Also with seramas you have to consider the lethal gene factor, and they are pretty dang hard to hatch anyway! 

So if you feel like the air cells are way too big, then up the humidity a bit. Unfortunately, you may have to experiment a bit to fine tune them.  You may also consider a little higher humidity in those last 3 days.  I like 70-75% personally.

Thanks! I will definitely try a higher humidity for lockdown this time around.

We are only human after all.

 

New Chickies!

 

Born 08/16/16

 

2 Marans (1 Black, 1 Blue)

3 Ameraucanas (1 Black, 1 Blue, 1 Splash)

2 Cream Legbar Pullets

1 Olive Egger (Maran x Ameraucana F1)\

21 Bantams

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We are only human after all.

 

New Chickies!

 

Born 08/16/16

 

2 Marans (1 Black, 1 Blue)

3 Ameraucanas (1 Black, 1 Blue, 1 Splash)

2 Cream Legbar Pullets

1 Olive Egger (Maran x Ameraucana F1)\

21 Bantams

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post #7034 of 10479
Thread Starter 

I didn't know seramas have a lethal gene.

 

Seems like air cells are always larger on shipped eggs.

post #7035 of 10479
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I didn't know seramas have a lethal gene.

Seems like air cells are always larger on shipped eggs.

Well, the short legged ones can carry it. Short to short can cause some DIS.
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post #7036 of 10479
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Do other short legged breeds also have this issue?

post #7037 of 10479
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Do other short legged breeds also have this issue?

I *think* Japenese bantams do... Ohiki don't as far as I know...

It's called the creeper gene...
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post #7038 of 10479
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I *think* Japenese bantams do... Ohiki don't as far as I know...

It's called the creeper gene...
Japanese bantams do have the creeper gene, ohiki do not. You are correct big_smile.png
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Ducks I raise: Snowy calls and Anconas
Chickens I raise: Ohiki, Swedish flower, svart hona, chocolate, mauve, mauve splash, cuckoo, blue, splash and black orps (bantams, ENGLISH), brown/isabel leghorns, and easter eggers. New for 2017 chocolate cuckoo english orpingtons(large fowl) and Buff saddleback pomeranian geese!
And, 1 lonely guinea hen who thinks she's a duck.
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post #7039 of 10479
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Originally Posted by minihorse927 View Post

Japanese bantams do have the creeper gene, ohiki do not. You are correct big_smile.png

Thought so! I've hatched some super short legged Ohiki without issues, lol...
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post #7040 of 10479
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Originally Posted by RavynFallen View Post

Thought so! I've hatched some super short legged Ohiki without issues, lol...
lol...they got the waddles, lau.gif
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Ducks I raise: Snowy calls and Anconas
Chickens I raise: Ohiki, Swedish flower, svart hona, chocolate, mauve, mauve splash, cuckoo, blue, splash and black orps (bantams, ENGLISH), brown/isabel leghorns, and easter eggers. New for 2017 chocolate cuckoo english orpingtons(large fowl) and Buff saddleback pomeranian geese!
And, 1 lonely guinea hen who thinks she's a duck.
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NPIP & AI CLEAN
Ducks I raise: Snowy calls and Anconas
Chickens I raise: Ohiki, Swedish flower, svart hona, chocolate, mauve, mauve splash, cuckoo, blue, splash and black orps (bantams, ENGLISH), brown/isabel leghorns, and easter eggers. New for 2017 chocolate cuckoo english orpingtons(large fowl) and Buff saddleback pomeranian geese!
And, 1 lonely guinea hen who thinks she's a duck.
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