Meds being taken off the shelf in 2017

In my Vet class we went over the VFD stuff. Only antibiotics are effected. Wormers, probiotics, etc. are not effected. To obtain a VFD a Vet is suppose to exam the patient and monitor the patient all the way through. If you own an antibiotic that will require a VFD before the law takes effect, you are suppose to get a VFD before using.

I forgot to add injectable antibiotics should remain.

casportpony said:

Oh, forgot to mention that California has a new law that will go into effect 1-1-2018 that will require Rx for *all* antibiotics.   Need to do more research on that.

-Kathy

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I wonder if they're going to add other stuff. Like wormers. I also wonder if other states will adopt a similar law.

Thank you all for the replies...so confusing. I have been pretty fortunate and not needed much for our flock, but you never know. We don't have any vets around here that see poultry so it will be quite a quandary.

From what I understand, some states may require prescriptions for injectables as well, but yeah even for veterinarians it is very confusing!

Chickerdoodle13 said:

From what I understand, some states may require prescriptions for injectables as well, but yeah even for veterinarians it is very confusing!

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California has already put some restrictions in place, though I don't know the details.

-Kathy

Birdrain92 said:

In my Vet class we went over the VFD stuff. Only antibiotics are effected. Wormers, probiotics, etc. are not effected. To obtain a VFD a Vet is suppose to exam the patient and monitor the patient all the way through. If you own an antibiotic that will require a VFD before the law takes effect, you are suppose to get a VFD before using.

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True story...

-Kathy

Some wormers are effected. Rooster Booster for instance in now VFD. VFD is aimed at medicated feed or supplements. Duramycin is not effected. In Missouri, MFA has a new proprietary feed with naturals and essential oils for livestock producers as a result of VFD. Read up on it....while it does make things difficult and confusing at first, in my opinion it is a good thing. I will ask DH for more info to share. He deals with this from management point of view from an Ag Service, as well as our own livestock.

Curnow said:

Some wormers are effected.  Rooster Booster for instance in now VFD.   VFD is aimed at medicated feed or supplements.  Duramycin is not effected.   In Missouri, MFA has a new proprietary feed with naturals and essential oils for livestock producers as a result of VFD.  Read up on it....while it does make things difficult and confusing at first, in my opinion it is a good thing.  I will ask DH for more info to share.   He deals with this from management point of view from an Ag Service, as well as our own livestock.

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Yes, any wormer product that has hygromycin b, or any other antibiotics is no longer available OTC, but all other wormers are still OTC.

The *powdered* Duramycin (tetracyline) is prescription only, but the injectable oxytetracylines are still OTC.

casportpony said:

Yes, any wormer product that has hygromycin b, or any other antibiotics is no longer available OTC, but all other wormers are still OTC.

The *powdered* Duramycin (tetracyline) is prescription only, but the injectable oxytetracylines are still OTC.

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Yep! I will really miss the quick access to powdered Duramycin. We have used it for years (only when needed) on injured pets, bottle calves with scours, chickens with predator attacks, etc. We do have a good relationship with or vet though, that should help if needed in the future. Powdered was just soooooo easy!

I think small and hobby operations will be effected most. The person with only a few chickens for instance is probably less likely to have a working vet relationship.

We are what I consider small (perhaps micro mini) in the world of ag production....a bull calf, a cow, and a newly born heifer calf...4 horses...50++ chickens, and 4 dogs. Not exactly big producers. But, we do use qualified veterinarian care and maintenance for the animals we have when needed.

In the end....I do still think VFD is a good thing...inconvenient as it may be for the little guys. There is entirely to much antibiotic resistance going on!! This is why we personally produce most of our own meat. We don't like the idea of putting all the "EXTRAS" into our bodies from whatever big farm/pharm felt necessary to pump animals full of!

Hopefully this will force better farming practices on all...big and small! Just my opinion....for what it's worth.