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@PeepersMama  I still had a couple things I wanted to say regarding your cousin, if you don't mind....

 

I didn't realize there was an age difference between you! For some reason I thought you were a lot closer than that. So I can see how it might be a challenge to find common things to do, but I will continue to brain storm anyways. :P   Oh ya, I was thinking maybe an amusement park trip where each member of your youth group gets to invite a (unsaved) friend. Maybe a packed lunch and a couple of short devotion type learning sessions... I love roller coasters! :yiipchick

 

And a couple of verses to support your parents not wanting you to take on Tors' characteristics... And I don't mean to call her a fool, so please don't take it that way. :)

 

 

Proverbs 13:20  He that walketh with wise men shall be wise: but a companion of fools shall be destroyed.

 

Proverbs 1:7  The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge, But fools despise wisdom and instruction.

 

Psalm 1:1-3   Blessed is the one who does not walk in step with the wicked or stand in the way that sinners take or sit in the company of mockers, but whose delight is in the law of the Lord, and who meditates on his law day and night. That person is like a tree planted by streams of water, which yields its fruit in season and whose leaf does not wither— whatever they do prospers.

 

Proverbs 10:23 Doing wrong is fun for a fool, but living wisely brings pleasure to the sensible.

 

1 Corinthians 15:33 Do not be misled: “Bad company corrupts good character.”

 

 

However, it doesn't say ignore them or forget about them....

 

2 Timothy 2:24-26  And the Lord’s servant must not be quarrelsome but must be kind to everyone, able to teach, not resentful. Opponents must be gently instructed, in the hope that God will grant them repentance leading them to a knowledge of the truth, and that they will come to their senses and escape from the trap of the devil, who has taken them captive to do his will.

 

Mathew 5:14-16  “You are the light of the world. A town built on a hill cannot be hidden. Neither do people light a lamp and put it under a bowl. Instead they put it on its stand, and it gives light to everyone in the house. In the same way, let your light shine before others, that they may see your good deeds and glorify your Father in heaven.

 

James 5:15-16  And the prayer offered in faith will make the sick person well; the Lord will raise them up. If they have sinned, they will be forgiven. Therefore confess your sins to each other and pray for each other so that you may be healed. The prayer of a righteous person is powerful and effective.

So, keep praying! :thumbsup

 

Also, I can't carry a tune in a bucket but I will gladly sing at the top of my voice (Not soprano) with you if I know the words! :woot And I do know a few of the old school songs you probably don't mind enjoying. :old ;)

 

One more thing, I am sorry for the loss of the chickens you had. :( I do believe loss serves purpose, aside from redirecting our attention to God... I think loosing pets when you are young help us learn how to cope with much greater loss of our loved ones later in life. And thank you for sharing with me. :hugs 

 

ETA: Thanks for being concerned when it took me a while to reply. It just takes time to gather my thought and do a little research sometimes. Plus life happens. And then I have to leave my browser open so I don't lose what I already typed. So it makes it look like I'm stalking the thread and stewing about something. :hide That's not the case though, I'm just slow. And sometimes respond to other things faster that takes less processing in my brain.


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post #292 of 4333

Billy Graham has good lessons, BUT he doesn't preach baptism.  To be saved, one must be baptized.  

 

Mark 16:15-16  Jesus says,  "Go into all the world and preach the gospel to every creature. He who believes and is baptized will be saved; but he who does not believe will be condemned." 

 

Acts 2:38  Peter says, "Repent, and let each of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins; and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit."

 

1 Pet. 3:21  "Corresponding to that, baptism now saves you—not the removal of dirt from the flesh, but an appeal to God for a good conscience—through the resurrection of Jesus Christ",

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post #293 of 4333

Baptism is a symbol of being saved. It represnts us being buried and raised with Jesus, and simply makes one's salvation public, nothing more. Just because a person is baptized doesn't mean that they will go to heaven, and if a person isn't baptized, that doesn't mean that they can't go to heaven.

 

To be saved, "Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved (Acts 16:31)." 

 

"If thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved (Romans 10:9)."

 

"Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to His mercy He saved us...(Titus 3:5)."

 

"For by grace are ye saved through faith, and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God. Not of works, lest any man should boast. (Ephesians 2:8-9)"

I love three things:                               

1. Jesus, my Lord and Saviour

2. My chickens (notably Peep)

And 3. Star wars (!!)

 

"People who count their chickens before they act very wisely, because

chickens run about so absurdly that it is impossible to count them acturatly!"

 

A really fun website:

http://patorjk.com/software/taag/#p=testall&h=1&v=2&c=bash&f=Crawford2...

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I love three things:                               

1. Jesus, my Lord and Saviour

2. My chickens (notably Peep)

And 3. Star wars (!!)

 

"People who count their chickens before they act very wisely, because

chickens run about so absurdly that it is impossible to count them acturatly!"

 

A really fun website:

http://patorjk.com/software/taag/#p=testall&h=1&v=2&c=bash&f=Crawford2...

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post #294 of 4333
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Is the persecution of the Jews good or bad?

BAD! The Jews are God's chosen people, and one day He will come back and wipe out any nation who dares to raise a hand against them. 

Sadly, they still believe in the Old testament law,and think that they have to sacrifice for their sins. They hate the name of Jesus (not sure why), and they don't believe that he is God' son. 

I love three things:                               

1. Jesus, my Lord and Saviour

2. My chickens (notably Peep)

And 3. Star wars (!!)

 

"People who count their chickens before they act very wisely, because

chickens run about so absurdly that it is impossible to count them acturatly!"

 

A really fun website:

http://patorjk.com/software/taag/#p=testall&h=1&v=2&c=bash&f=Crawford2...

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I love three things:                               

1. Jesus, my Lord and Saviour

2. My chickens (notably Peep)

And 3. Star wars (!!)

 

"People who count their chickens before they act very wisely, because

chickens run about so absurdly that it is impossible to count them acturatly!"

 

A really fun website:

http://patorjk.com/software/taag/#p=testall&h=1&v=2&c=bash&f=Crawford2...

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post #295 of 4333
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Yep, back. Backwards in time... Lol

Now that I finally feel like I'm starting to understand SO much about why life can be so...hard. Times I was tested and didn't know it, and I obviously chose the wrong answer. Times I had opportunity to teach, and I didn't. Times I could have forgiven, and instead I dwelled and harbored anger, and malice towards others.

Times I was most definitely not a Christian.

Regrets. Regrets about being so blind and deaf to what I already knew as a child. That God loves me and always has, that he tested me to make me strong, took things from me to help me see how much I didn't need the world, but I needed his Son to learn from and be an example to others.

We can't go back, but we have the ability to teach those below us how not to make the same mistakes. To take that Bible and hold it close, because someday you'll look back and realize that it held all the answers all along.

Job. The book of Job always does that to me lol, makes me think that all those trials had a purpose, to bring me closer to Him.

I'm sorry, but I am gonna have to disagree with you! 

 

God had you exactly where you needed to be. :/ And it wasn't He who was testing you....

 

Sometimes what we go through isn't even for our purpose but for God's greater purpose. We may suffer, as Job did, not because he was teaching Job something but that someone else might see the truth. Of course some of it is to benefit us, but we are so wrapped inside our own messes we forget what we might be projecting and who it might be effecting. Sometimes we are just a part of the greater picture. Maybe an intricate part. But now when troubles come there are two things I tell myself.... "here we grow (not go) again" and "what am I supposed to be learning from this". If we are always in our comfort zone we will not grow. Sometimes we need to be stretched in order to fit God's purpose in our lives. Sometimes something that happens to us might be a wake up call for someone else! (Wow, I just got a whole new understanding of the term "wake up call"!)

 

Some people have the ability to learn from others mistakes. But some really do have to experience it first hand to have an understanding, unfortunately. I've seen it time and again with my own sister who must SEE if that flame is really hot or not. :barnie

 

When we first meet someone, we don't trust their love and know they got our backs (since we have learned that very young). That comes through relation which includes getting to know them better, hanging out all the time, and learning their true character.

 

Mathew 18:2-4  He called a little child to him, and placed the child among them. And he said: “Truly I tell you, unless you change and become like little children, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven. Therefore, whoever takes the lowly position of this child is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven.

 

To me this passage means that we must learn to trust our Father completely. He will protect us. Not worry about what we are going to eat or wear. But enjoy Gods' presence and this, the most glorious ride at the theme park called LIFE. Yes the creator made all this for us to enjoy. No not as the worldly do but as the blessed do, knowing that God wants his children to be happy!

 

Not only full of trust (aka) faith, but also full of wonder and excitement. Or rather JOY. Happiness is fleeting but the joy of the Lord is everlasting!

post #296 of 4333
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Originally Posted by TexasLisa View Post
 

Billy Graham has good lessons, BUT he doesn't preach baptism.  To be saved, one must be baptized.  

 

Mark 16:15-16  Jesus says,  "Go into all the world and preach the gospel to every creature. He who believes and is baptized will be saved; but he who does not believe will be condemned." 

 

Acts 2:38  Peter says, "Repent, and let each of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins; and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit."

 

1 Pet. 3:21  "Corresponding to that, baptism now saves you—not the removal of dirt from the flesh, but an appeal to God for a good conscience—through the resurrection of Jesus Christ",

 

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Originally Posted by PeepersMama View Post
 

Baptism is a symbol of being saved. It represnts us being buried and raised with Jesus, and simply makes one's salvation public, nothing more. Just because a person is baptized doesn't mean that they will go to heaven, and if a person isn't baptized, that doesn't mean that they can't go to heaven.

 

To be saved, "Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved (Acts 16:31)." 

 

"If thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved (Romans 10:9)."

 

"Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to His mercy He saved us...(Titus 3:5)."

 

"For by grace are ye saved through faith, and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God. Not of works, lest any man should boast. (Ephesians 2:8-9)"

I'm gonna agree with peepersmama on this one, and it's hotly debated by many "religions". And that it is only a  SYMBOL. In no way will water babtism get you access or denied form Heaven! Remember it's not what we do in public that we will be rewarded for, 

 

Mathew 6:1 “Be careful not to practice your righteousness in front of others to be seen by them. If you do, you will have no reward from your Father in heaven. (I know this is talking about works, but to me it applies to this discussion)

 

1 Corinthians 12:13 For we were all baptized by one Spirit so as to form one body—whether Jews or Gentiles, slave or free—and we were all given the one Spirit to drink.

 

Acts 1:5   For John truly baptized with water; but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost not many days hence.

 

Luke 3:16  John answered them all, “I baptize you with water. But one who is more powerful than I will come, the straps of whose sandals I am not worthy to untie. He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and fire. 

 

Mark 16:6 Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned. ( notice it says "whoever does not believe", not whoever isn't babtized).

post #297 of 4333

@PeepersMama I actually Love Charles Stanley and think he is a good teacher, with some faults of his own. I disagree with some of his takes on things, but we are different people and he does teach from the Bible. I also enjoy his son Andy's teaching as well. 

 

Billy Graham, no doubt was a good teacher.... he is a little to evangelistic or TV-ish for me. But the teachings I have followed or seen of his don't seem to be leading people astray. :)

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Originally Posted by PeepersMama View Post
 

Baptism is a symbol of being saved. It represnts us being buried and raised with Jesus, and simply makes one's salvation public, nothing more. Just because a person is baptized doesn't mean that they will go to heaven, and if a person isn't baptized, that doesn't mean that they can't go to heaven.

 

To be saved, "Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved (Acts 16:31)." 

 

"If thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved (Romans 10:9)."

 

"Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to His mercy He saved us...(Titus 3:5)."

 

"For by grace are ye saved through faith, and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God. Not of works, lest any man should boast. (Ephesians 2:8-9)"

 

The verses you have cited are true, as also my verses that deal with baptism.  All of this is called obedience to the Gospel.  The gospel contains commands to be obeyed like faith, repentance, confession, and baptism.  You can't choose some and not all of the Gospel.  The verses below show that the Gospel must be obeyed, not merely believed.

 

Rom. 2:8:  "but to those who are selfishly ambitious and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, wrath, and indignation."

 

2 Thess. 1:8-9:  "dealing out retribution to those who do not know God and to those who do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus.  These will pay the penalty of eternal destrution, away from the presence of the Lord and from the glory of His power."

 

1 Pet. 4:17:  "For it is time for judgement to begin with the household of God; and if it begins with us first, what will be the outcome for those who do not obey the gospel of God?"

Lisa   (one very special husband, 1 ornery cat, 2 Australorps, 6 EEs, 3 Speckled Sussexs,)

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My wife and I have traveled to Jerusalem, we were there for a Jewish Sabbath day. The elevators are placed on automatic on the Sabbath (in the hotel in Tiberias) and when on automatic they stop on every floor so "you" do not do any work by pushing a button. The coffee on the Sabbath is instant because it is "work" to brew a pot of coffee.

 

I have failed in so many areas I need Jesus' death on the cross, I can not even follow the "Love your neighbor" commandment that Jesus said was the second most important.

 

 

 

 

Matthew 22  New American Standard Bible (NASB)

 35 One of them, a lawyer, asked Him a question, testing Him, 36 “Teacher, which is the great commandment in the Law?” 37 And He said to him, “‘You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind.’ 38 This is the great and foremost commandment. 39 The second is like it, ‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself.’ 40 On these two commandments depend the whole Law and the Prophets.”


Edited by ocap - 12/17/16 at 12:58pm

Favorite Books: More Than a Carpenter by Josh McDowell, Mere Christianity by C. S. Lewis, Cries of the Heart by Ravi Zacharias, I Don't Have Enough Faith to be an Atheist by Norman Geisler and Frank Turek

 

Frank Turek https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YoqzcDrILJ0

Brigitte Gabriel: Radical Islam https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFO1AtjoUoo&app=desktop

 

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Favorite Books: More Than a Carpenter by Josh McDowell, Mere Christianity by C. S. Lewis, Cries of the Heart by Ravi Zacharias, I Don't Have Enough Faith to be an Atheist by Norman Geisler and Frank Turek

 

Frank Turek https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YoqzcDrILJ0

Brigitte Gabriel: Radical Islam https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFO1AtjoUoo&app=desktop

 

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My wife and I have traveled to Jerusalem, we were there for a Jewish Sabbath day. The elevators are placed on automatic on the Sabbath (in the hotel in Tiberias) and when on automatic they stop on every floor so "you" do not do any work by pushing a button. The coffee on the Sabbath is instant because it is "work" to brew a pot of coffee.

I have failed in so many areas I need Jesus' death on the cross, I can not even follow the "Love your neighbor" commandment that Jesus said was the second most important.




Matthew 22  New American Standard Bible (NASB)
 35 One of them, a lawyer, asked Him a question, testing Him, 36 “Teacher, which is the great commandment in the Law?” 37 And He said to him, “‘You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind.’ 38 This is the great and foremost commandment. 39 The second is like it, ‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself.’ 40 On these two commandments depend the whole Law and the Prophets.”

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