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Yes! Definitely good nutrition is a must on our farm.

In my previous life I was an animal nutritionist. I worked almost 20 years for an avian vet as head tech and office manager. Nutrition has always been the key factor in all my breeding of animals. I always felt that is why we won horse shows, dogs shows, cavy shows and poultry shows.

In knowing nutrition and how the body works, I know that one diet doesn't fit all so I need to find his nutritional needs for best plumage. Peafowl are new to me so I have been working with each birds' conditioning and best diet. I hope I have it almost correct after 4 years.

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post #12 of 17

I would remove the peach from any further breeding that you choose to do. Birds that display any kind of deformity shouldn't be used for breeding and it is likely that if you got both of those birds from the same source that inbreeding is a problem in that flock. Since peach and cameo are also sex linked it's a color you need to be really picky about what birds you select for breeder stock.

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I do not know much about peafowl genetics, but it would be so cool to see him with an opal female!

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post #14 of 17

I am going to disagree with Bill.  I would put a bronze hen in with him.  Putting the purple hen in there will give nothing but but double split males that would need crossover to create peach.  You might never get anything.  If you put the cameo male with a bronze hen you will get all cameo hens split to bronze and IB cocks split to both cameo and bronze.  You can then breed the siblings to each other and find out what the combination of bronze and cameo looks like. There are sixteen possible outcomes from the breeding.  One of the 16 is a cameo bronze cock and one of the 16 is a cameo bronze hen.  To the best of my knowledge, no one has made this combination yet.

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You could do the same with your opal hen as well, but don't use both the opal hen and the bronze hen as you will not be able to tell the split birds apart.

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I am going to disagree with Bill.  I would put a bronze hen in with him.  Putting the purple hen in there will give nothing but but double split males that would need crossover to create peach.  You might never get anything.  If you put the cameo male with a bronze hen you will get all cameo hens split to bronze and IB cocks split to both cameo and bronze.  You can then breed the siblings to each other and find out what the combination of bronze and cameo looks like. There are sixteen possible outcomes from the breeding.  One of the 16 is a cameo bronze cock and one of the 16 is a cameo bronze hen.  To the best of my knowledge, no one has made this combination yet.

 

Thank you!! This is just the kind of help I was looking for! (no offense, Bill) This sounds more of like the direction I would like to work towards with this bird.

 

I did put a Bronze hen in with him for about 2 months last year but she would not lay with him. She refused to give me an egg at all with this peacock so I moved her and she soon started laying with the other peacock, so I will try her sister this year and see if that gives me better results.

Next year I can try an Opal hen as I only have the 2 and both are going back to a son from them. Interestingly enough, his father is a Bronze. Let that confuse for a while! LOL That son is a India Blue WE and I am extremely excited to see what they produce when bred back to his Opal Mom(s).

I do keep very good records and will always know what birds are from whom.

 

I really did not want to put my purple with him as that has been done before and I did not really care for the results from other people's crosses of that, though my birds' genetics may be a bit different. I thought about it for a while but have no desire for that cross. (again, no offense)

 

MidnightMan14, no worries. The Peach will not be used again. I am pretty sure scissor beak was a genetic flaw and her chicks dying this year proved she is not a breeder, just a pet. This was the first time anything had ever been hatched from her and she is 7 or 8 years old. Her eggs are obvious so I think I am safe to never set her eggs again. The Cameo and Peach did come from the same breeder but not the same breeding pens and the parent birds are not form the same breeder he got them from so I am good there.

Bantam Cochins are my love! Mille Fleur projects, buff barred projects and black/blue Mottled. Chickens, Guineas, Ducks, Peafowl and Turkeys. Contact me for hatching eggs and a link to my website.


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post #17 of 17

No offense taken, that is why we call Phil Sensei.  He knows **** er, stuff.

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Black Copper Marans, Easter Eggers, Mutts, ducks, and PEAFOWL!!!  India Blue, IB White Eye, IB Pied WE split Cameo, IB Silver Pied, IBBS, IBBS split Cameo, IBBS Pied, IBBS WE, Cameo, CBS (Oaten), Cameo Pied, CPWE, CSP, and Purple Black Shoulder. African Gray Parrots, a bunch of those dang guineas.  Oh, and honeybees, around 200 hives.  And two Great Pyrenees puppies.

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