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post #71 of 78
I made assumption based on raptor species and pattern of writing that poster is in North America.

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post #72 of 78
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Originally Posted by centrarchid View Post

Gonna get pinched.

This is actually not very likely. In my county there are all of 3 employees working as wardens for the Fish and Wildlife department and I live in the largest county in Washington state.. Even IF your neighbors try and turn you in, you would have to have been very sloppy in handling the situation to actually be prosecuted. Even that guy whom famously shot Cecil the Lion had been only slapped on the wrist for illegally hunting bear on federal land without a license out of season. Of course everyone is responsible for their own actions but to suggest the Gov't is going to hit you for  $15,000 on a charge of raptor killing is not only improbable in any private property outside city limits but also pushing this idea that removing threats from your property only invites even greater threats is itself a logical fallacy. Noone can say what will or wont happen after you have culled the hawks from your airspace but bigger and badder hawks as an answer makes no sense.

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1 Black Cochin ((Free Exotic from MMM whom we adore, gender unknown))

2 Red Sex Link Hens ((Britta and Adventure Chicken))

post #73 of 78
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Originally Posted by ChickenChaser9 View Post

This is actually not very likely. In my county there are all of 3 employees working as wardens for the Fish and Wildlife department and I live in the largest county in Washington state.. Even IF your neighbors try and turn you in, you would have to have been very sloppy in handling the situation to actually be prosecuted. Even that guy whom famously shot Cecil the Lion had been only slapped on the wrist for illegally hunting bear on federal land without a license out of season. Of course everyone is responsible for their own actions but to suggest the Gov't is going to hit you for  $15,000 on a charge of raptor killing is not only improbable in any private property outside city limits but also pushing this idea that removing threats from your property only invites even greater threats is itself a logical fallacy. Noone can say what will or wont happen after you have culled the hawks from your airspace but bigger and badder hawks as an answer makes no sense.


Normally, probability very low. Posting on internet puts you in the realm of sloppy and greatly increases the number of neighbors and officers potentially in the know. The neighbors and officers need not be just in your immediate vicinity.

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post #74 of 78
They are lots of rats and bunnies and squirrels scattered about my property. There are only a few hawks, I used to think the big brown things that would fly extremely low over the younger chickens were hawks about to dive. I think that those are all buzzards. I know of atleast 3 hawks. Two redtails and one brown bird of prey that seems to be a Cooper's hawk. There is not too much action yet from the hawks as it is winter. With all this info, do you think the buzzards will try to hunt? I mean I've counted 17 flying brown things that I guess are buzzards.



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post #75 of 78
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Originally Posted by big bouncer View Post

well the last one I shot wasn't too stinky and the 12g rekt its intestines. Although it was a 50+ft shot. I mean it's hard to judge flying targets. But I definitely want the hawks to leave. Maybe if there are less buzzards to steal what is possibly hawk food, the hawks will be able to just eat the small nice and squirrels instead of feasting on a juicy chick.

Shooting something dead that one isnt sure what it is (in order to identify it?!) seems pretty cruel, regardless of whether it's actually illegal--one of the first rules of responsible firearms use is to accurately ID the target first, not after.



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post #76 of 78
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Shooting something dead that one isnt sure what it is (in order to identify it?!) seems pretty cruel, regardless of whether it's actually illegal--one of the first rules of responsible firearms use is to accurately ID the target first, not after.
I knew it was a bird of prey that was killing my chickens. I misidentified it at first, thinking it was a hawk as it looked and acted like one. As it swooped around my chickens and perched and watched my chickens and I heard screeches (other hawks apparently). And the reason is mainly that the hawk is killing my beloved pets (thought it was a given). The hope for it to eat mice instead of my chicks is another reason on top of a reason that was posted further up in the chat.



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post #77 of 78
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Originally Posted by big bouncer View Post

I knew it was a bird of prey that was killing my chickens. I misidentified it at first, thinking it was a hawk as it looked and acted like one. As it swooped around my chickens and perched and watched my chickens and I heard screeches (other hawks apparently). And the reason is mainly that the hawk is killing my beloved pets (thought it was a given). The hope for it to eat mice instead of my chicks is another reason on top of a reason that was posted further up in the chat which you obviously did not read... Not cool

No need to get cheeky or defensive... (I have actually read through this entire thread FYI, tho not that its important).

Tho I didnt say as much before, please know I do sympathize with the frustrations and losses you've been dealing with--that really sucks. But that wouldn't excuse any innappropriate actions that may have been taken.

Apologies if you think you were misunderstood--but all anyone here has to go on is what you give them. And based on all I've seen so far, I didn't post lightly, and what I wrote still stands. Please think if it as a friendly reminder not an accusation.
Edited by triplepurpose - 3/19/17 at 3:33pm
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post #78 of 78

Predators are a fact of life when we keep poultry. Seems like they come in from all corners of the Earth to check out our facilities. We understand your need to be vigilant in protecting them, however we feel this thread has run it's course. So before it gets more heated on shooting aerial attackers, we have decided to lock down this thread.

 

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