Can Anyone guess the breed or sex please ?? Started sprouted head feathers, photos are a week apart

@Clucksworth12


The OP is in the UK and we don't have EEs and Ameraucana here. There is also no such breed as an Americana even in the USA. From what I have read, it is a deliberate misspelling of the Ameraucana breed, used as a marketing ploy to pass EEs off as something they are not.
Also Ameraucana have pea combs not single combs like this chick. If you do some research on cream legbars, you will improve your knowledge of breeds and realise that this bird has all the characteristics of that breed.


It wasn't a deliberate misspelling, it was a typo. I was just guessing by the feather pattern as I cannot tell much form 2 pictures. It also would help if you could state it was in the UK before posting began. And if you will do some research, you'll find cream leg bars aren't a recognized breed in the US. I don't know what you mean by 'marketing toy' but that's not what was emnat in my post
 
@Clucksworth12

I agree, if everyone filled in their profile with their location like you and I have, so that we could see at a glance where they are in the world, each time they post, it would be a lot less confusing, especially as breeds vary between countries. It's one of my pet hates on forums. I had to do some background reading of the OP's other posts to figure out their location.

As regards, Ameraucana, Americana and Easter Eggers, there are many posts on the rather confusing subject of how they all came to be, but Americana spelled with an i instead of au in the middle, was, I believe, a name used by a hatchery to kid people into believing they were getting something rare (an Ameraucana) rather than a regular Easter Egger with a new name.... in other words a marketing ploy or trick. I don't know which you have, but most people who have Ameraucana are very aware of the difference between them and how important the spelling is.
Cream legbars are still quite rare in the USA and as you say, not recognised by the APA, but they do still exist as a breed and are quite sought after.
 
@Clucksworth12


I agree, if everyone filled in their profile with their location like you and I have, so that we could see at a glance where they are in the world, each time they post, it would be a lot less confusing, especially as breeds vary between countries. It's one of my pet hates on forums. I had to do some background reading of the OP's other posts to figure out their location.

As regards, Ameraucana, Americana and Easter Eggers, there are many posts on the rather confusing subject of how they all came to be, but Americana spelled with an i instead of au in the middle, was, I believe, a name used by a hatchery to kid people into believing they were getting something rare (an Ameraucana)  rather than a regular Easter Egger with a new name.... in other words a marketing ploy or trick. I don't know which you have, but most people who have Ameraucana are very aware of the difference between them and how important the spelling is.
Cream legbars are still quite rare in the USA and as you say, not recognised by the APA, but they do still exist as a breed and are quite sought after.


I agree. But the spelling with an "i" was only a typing error. I do enjoy discovering new breeds. Woudl you mind sharing a little about it?
 
I can't tell you anything more about them than a google search would reveal, but they are basically an auto sexing breed (they breed true unlike sex links but can be sexed at a day old by the head spot on the male which indicates he will be barred, whereas the females are not). The females look very similar to Welsummers and brown Leghorns, but they have a crest. In fact they have quite large single combs, which is often floppy in the females and they get that from brown Leghorn in their genetic make up. The barring was introduced by adding barred Plymouth Rock into the mix and this creates the sexing linkage and the crest and blue egg laying comes from their Araucana ancestry. So, a bit like black sex links, they can be sexed at hatch with the males having a white head spot, but unlike black sex links they will breed true generation after generation and of course they are not black! The females often have a slight body like the leghorn and are good layers of quite large blue eggs, but the males are heavier built.

I've only got one female Legbar left who is in my welsummer pen and you would hardly notice the difference apart from her little crest and white ear lobes. I lost my Legbar cock bird, Harry, last year but I have lots of his offspring crossed to various other breeds. I particularly loved the Legbar/RIR cross as they had great personalities and laid beautiful green eggs, but sadly I lost them both in a fox attack a couple of years back.

I'm not sure what else I can tell you other than they are really nice birds.
 
I feel that you have been a little rude about me, I'm new to forums and new to owning chickens. I have no idea what's right and wrong about asking questions on forums. I was only asking a simple question and now I'm totally put off by writing anything else
 
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I agree I had a little harshness with person in this forum. I was accused of being a market toy user beocuse of a typing error. But let's not argue! I do love that chick whatever kind it is!
 
Hi I'm sorry if my comments came across as harsh or offensive. It was not intended.

@LynzT

I was trying to explain how you might use the forum more efficiently both as regards posting all your chick ID queries on the same thread. That enables people replying to see that the development of the chick over a series of photos as it gets older, which can help with identifying it and also enable people to see that they have already commented on that chick and not spend time duplicating their answer. Also, you included more information on the other post, which cannot be seen on this post but is important for identification...ie the blue egg colour.

As regards including your location in the profile page, it is just helpful to know roughly where in the world you are so that advice can be tailored to your conditions, climate, season and even breed characteristics. There are thousands of members scattered all over the world and it can make a significant difference to the response you give. Having to ask about location each time and then wait for a reply or waste time giving advice that may not be relevant because the location is not what you assumed (the majority of members are in the USA), can be frustrating. I guess that frustration came out in my post and I can only apologise for that.

@Clucksworth12

I did not accuse you of being a "market toy" or indeed of anything. I was trying to explain that the name "Americana" (with an i )came about (I believe) from a hatchery using clever wording to pass Easter Eggers off as something more rare.... this is a "marketing ploy" (not marketing toy) which means it is a legal trick, if you like, to encourage people to buy Easter Eggers. It is the hatchery that were/are guilty of this, not you.


I have clearly expressed myself badly and caused more confusion instead of less and upset people in the process, which was not my intent. I'm really sorry to both of you for that.

Best wishes

Barbara
 
Hi I'm sorry if my comments came across as harsh or offensive. It was not intended. @LynzT I was trying to explain how you might use the forum more efficiently both as regards posting all your chick ID queries on the same thread. That enables people replying to see that the development of the chick over a series of photos as it gets older, which can help with identifying it and also enable people to see that they have already commented on that chick and not spend time duplicating their answer. Also, you included more information on the other post, which cannot be seen on this post but is important for identification...ie the blue egg colour. As regards including your location in the profile page, it is just helpful to know roughly where in the world you are so that advice can be tailored to your conditions, climate, season and even breed characteristics. There are thousands of members scattered all over the world and it can make a significant difference to the response you give. Having to ask about location each time and then wait for a reply or waste time giving advice that may not be relevant because the location is not what you assumed (the majority of members are in the USA), can be frustrating. I guess that frustration came out in my post and I can only apologise for that. @Clucksworth12are guilty of this, not you. I have clearly expressed myself badly and caused more confusion instead of less and upset people in the process, which was not my intent. I'm really sorry to both of you for that. Best wishes Barbara
Hi I'm sorry if my comments came across as harsh or offensive. It was not intended. @LynzT I was trying to explain how you might use the forum more efficiently both as regards posting all your chick ID queries on the same thread. That enables people replying to see that the development of the chick over a series of photos as it gets older, which can help with identifying it and also enable people to see that they have already commented on that chick and not spend time duplicating their answer. Also, you included more information on the other post, which cannot be seen on this post but is important for identification...ie the blue egg colour. As regards including your location in the profile page, it is just helpful to know roughly where in the world you are so that advice can be tailored to your conditions, climate, season and even breed characteristics. There are thousands of members scattered all over the world and it can make a significant difference to the response you give. Having to ask about location each time and then wait for a reply or waste time giving advice that may not be relevant because the location is not what you assumed (the majority of members are in the USA), can be frustrating. I guess that frustration came out in my post and I can only apologise for that. @Clucksworth12 I did not accuse you of being a "market toy" or indeed of anything. I was trying to explain that the name "Americana" (with an i )came about (I believe) from a hatchery using clever wording to pass Easter Eggers off as something more rare.... this is a "marketing ploy" (not marketing toy) which means it is a legal trick, if you like, to encourage people to buy Easter Eggers. It is the hatchery that were/are guilty of this, not you. I have clearly expressed myself badly and caused more confusion instead of less and upset people in the process, which was not my intent. I'm really sorry to both of you for that. Best wishes Barbara
Thanks for the reply and thanks for all the advise. I'll update my profile
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