Differences EE, Ameraucana, & Araucana * Pls post pics*

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No, not really. You can try to explain the reasons behind the changes anyway you want. But the bottom line is- if a hen's eggs are no longer green but have turned a pale blue, then that IS A COLOR CHANGE.





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Then what brown egg laying breed are you referring to specifically? I've kept numerous RIR'S & Australorps and none of my girls, over the course of their laying years, has layed an egg that was different than what they had started out with.
 
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Hmm, no one else seems to have had a problem understanding it. I won't bother beating a dead horse.

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I'm referring to all brown egg layers. If you would like to do a little research on your own, a simple Google search and quite probably a BYC, would provide ample evidence. Here is a link to get you started:

http://www.ithaca.edu/staff/jhenderson/chooks/chooks.html .

There is a comment under "Egg Color" you may wish to read.

Since your birds have always laid the same color of egg from their first egg to their last regardless of years, I suggest you take good care of them and consider yourself very blessed. I would imagine the rest of us would all like to have some of those genetics!

I would also imagine that you are the only person who has ever owned a chicken whose egg color has never changed. I know I certainly can't say that and I've had many different breeds but am currently working hard on Ameraucanas, Barnevelders, and Welsummers. It is a well-known fact that the blueness of Ameraucana eggs (for example) is much deeper in pullets and tends to lessen as the hen ages. It is no different for brown egg layers.

It's a simple case of biology and the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics. In fact there are many variables that affect egg color. Age is just one of them.

And with that, I will make this my last comment on the matter.

God Bless,
 
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Oh, I understand perfectly. You're the one who seems to have a problem grasping the fact that green and a pale blue are two different colors.

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Isn't that generalizing just a little?

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Why would I need to do any researching if I'm already speaking from my own experiences.



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Well, that is my experience with the RIR's and the Australorps that I've have kept.


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Yes, that's true... but it's still a shade of blue. Changing to a different shade of the same color is not the same thing as changing to a different color altogether.

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Uh...I beg to differ. The correct statement should be "It is no different for (some) brown egg layers". See response from above.
 
Then what brown egg laying breed are you referring to specifically? I've kept numerous RIR'S & Australorps and none of my girls, over the course of their laying years, has layed an egg that was different than what they had started out with.

I kept the same flock of RIRs for more than 30 years. In that time I found that my hens laid a darker egg after their molt than they did in the winter months. By late winter their eggs were always much paler brown. They would stop laying, molt, and restart. At that point the egg color was always darker and richer brown. Now I have a small flock of Buff Rocks. The eggs started off fairly light, darkened considerably as they started to lay well. Then winter hit and a few of them laid eggs that were almost white. Come this spring they all went through a light molt and the color in both their new feathers AND their eggs darkened back up.

Personally I think egg color is also affected by changes in protein levels. Those kinds of changes could easily be caused by the winter die-off of pasture, fewer greens in the winter diet, and changes of that sort. I do know that my Buff Rocks' feathers do seem (to my eye anyhow) to lighten through the winter and the new feathers in the spring are definitely darker, so it seems logical that the pigment being applied to the egg could be affected the same way the feather pigments are.

JMO

Rusty​
 
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OOps. Sorry.

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Sorry MOD! Just one more thing please.



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Please try to understand that I'm not saying that every RIR hen will always lay the same color egg. I was just talking about the ones that I've kept. All of my girls were production Reds from our local feed store. Maybe the differences can be attributed to the fact that they're from different bloodlines, maybe?

We did have one girl (Scarlett) who was aberrant however. Her eggs started out a light brown with speckles. As she aged over the years, the speckles grew larger and larger until they eventually covered the entire egg. By the end of her life (5yrs
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OK, I HAVE "I THINK" MAYBE ONE, IF NOT TWO EE"S OR AMERAUCANAS...SOMEBODY HELP ME PLEASE AND TELL ME WHICH...OR WHAT IVE POSTED ON THIS BLOG:
https://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=2635388#p2635388

THE ONE WITH EAR TUFFS IS FOR SURE AN EE...RIGHT? HAS EAR TUFFS...BUT MY OTHER ONE WITH RED,GRAY COLOR...WHAT IS SHE???? on the link above are better pictures of Sunshine

THANKS

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The bird in your pics here is an EE. But just a note -- she has ear MUFFS, not ear TUFTS. It's confusing terminology, but the term "muffs" applies to Ameraucanas and EEs. "Tufts" are a different type of structure with different genetics, and that term applies to Araucanas only.
 

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