And dont forget DE, people swear by that for odor control.
I've had no luck with DE for odor control BUT it is great for fly control.
Yep - DE helped me with the flies, but not the smell. I did get myself a bag of the Sweet PDZ, and oh it is *wonderful* stuff. It even helped with the smell of the dog box!
I use Sweet PDZ in the coop and the coop is literally odorless. I can SEE that there's poop everywhere, and I know they pee, but it doesn't stink at all!
Sweet PDZ doesn't sell via internet or snail mail. Your best bet is to email or call them for a location of the nearest dealer to where you live. Here is some information for all of you asking about the product.
Is Sweet PDZ Safe?
Yes, entirely safe, all-natural, non-hazardous and non-toxic. It's gentle to people, animals, barn equipment and stall mats.
It can be eaten and, in fact, the mineral is used as a feed supplement for cattle and swine to improve metabolism, lessen bloating and overcome scours. It is also safe for use with foals and in birthing areas.
Does Sweet PDZ work for other animals?
Extremely well, and will control odors generated by all animals.
Sweet PDZ's use is not limited to horse stalls. In fact, it is being used by breeders of a variety of animals, including lambs, ratites, dogs, cats, swine, sheep, rabbits, gerbils, mice, and reptiles. Sweet PDZ has also been very effective at moving llama and alpaca dung piles.
Do you need to mix Sweet PDZ with hydrated lime?
No, there's no reason to do so.
Sweet PDZ is much more effective then hydrated lime. Furthermore, unlike hydrated lime, Sweet PDZ is not toxic, caustic or hazardous to use.
Is Sweet PDZ expensive?
No ... it is actually less expensive than lime on a benefit to cost basis.
You will use about one third as much Sweet PDZ as you would use lime and in so doing, gain superior ammonia reduction performance and moisture absorption.
How long will a bag of Sweet PDZ last?
A month to six weeks for most horse stalls.
Usage will depend on the activities and habits of the horse. For the first application, sprinkle 3-5 cups on the surface of the stall area, primarily where the horse urinates. Then, as part of daily stall maintenance, remove saturated bedding material as usual, cover wet spots with Sweet PDZ. Recover with dry bedding. For other animals, the quantity required will depend on the size and habits of the animal. However, generally a visible covering applied to the base of the habitat is a good starting point. Then apply daily or as needed.
Sweet PDZ absorbs stall odors, but what about the moisture that is contributing to the odors?
Yes, it absorbs the moisture as well as odors.
Sweet PDZ dries the wet areas absorbing approximately 60% by weight of moisture.
Does Sweet PDZ work with any type of animal bedding?
Yes, it performs very well with all types of bedding.
What if Sweet PDZ gets wet, as for instance, in a dog run after a rain?
Moisture does not reduce the effectiveness of Sweet PDZ.
By its nature, it always carries some moisture which is necessary to its ability to absorb ammonium in urine.
Does Sweet PDZ work on flies?
Yes ... very effectively reduces the fly population.
Sweet PDZ is a desiccant. Flies will not light on it nor can larva live in it.
What do I do with Sweet PDZ when I clean up?
Recycle the ammonium bearing Sweet PDZ as a fertilizer in pastures and gardens.
Ammonium saturated Sweet PDZ has the multiple benefits of being a slow release nitrogen fertilizer, pH neutral, and water retaining soil amendment.
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Can you ship Sweet PDZ direct to me?
Can I order Sweet PDZ somewhere on the Web?
No, we're are sorry to not be able to serve you by those means yet. However, we can provide you with the names of dealers near you. Contact us and let us know where you are located (please include your zip code) and we'll tell you where Sweet PDZ is available.
I use DE in my coop and in my goat barn. Goat poop smells way worse than chicken poop. With the deep liter method and DE I have been able to keep almost all stinky smells taken care of as well as any flies. Once a day we police the barns and stalls. We scoop up what we see. We fluff and turn the shavings giving them time to naturally dry and air out. I sprinkle everything down about once a week with heavy dose of DE. My barns are clean, dry and smell free. They smell like sweet hay and pine shavings instead of goat and chicken poop.
If I were you I would turn under the soil and mix in some lime and sand. To begin with I would then put down at least a good 6 - 8 inches of pine shaving liberally dowsed with DE. Your hens will go crazy and bury themselves in the shaving, wallying and fluffing like pigs in a mud puddle. I LOVE watching my chickens when I put out new shavings. They are hilarious! Once a day or every other day go out with a pitch fork and turn them over, mix them up, fluff them around. Weekly or bi-weekly (as needed for your flock sometimes a month or more!) add another inch or two layer of shavings. The chickens will mash them down and they will compact quickly so don't worry about having a 2 foot high pile of shavings in your coop. You will do good trying to keep 6 -8 inches deep in there.
Every 6 - 8 months or so shovel it all out and start over. It makes awesome compost and additions to garden when turned into the soil.
We also wash our waterers and feeders every other day with antibacterial detergent. I keep them up off the ground so the birds can't scratch or spill anything out but can reach with their necks to drink and feed. Keep the area also dry and clean and dusted with DE, too.
Use only food grade DE - PermaGuard grade CODEX fossil shell flour. This is food grade and 100% safe for animal consumption. You will see it begin to keep flies down. It will help keep parasites off and out of your chickens (acts as a natural wormer). Also dust them with it to keep down any chance of lice or other chicken loving bugs. You must be positive it is food grade DE. Any other grade of DE will be poisonous. I cannot stress that enough.
I buy mine through dirtworks.net in 50lb bags. Shipping can get expensive but for me that supplier is the best.
It takes a little effort but I think you will see a big difference. When your girls are laying offer the neighbors a dozen of eggs with a "thanks for putting up with an occassional stray chicken" kind of laugh.
Thank you for all the info and help. This morning i went to my favorite feed store in bryan and bought a couple big bags of pine shavings. Unfortunatley, they did not carry DE or Sweet PDZ which was a bit dissapointing. I then went to Producers Co-op and they did not have DE or Sweet PDZ, but luckily, they did carry Stalldry. I'm going to check Tractor Supply Co but does anyone know of other places to get DE?? Also, can i get the lime at a place like Home Depot or Lowe's? I did not see the oyster shell lime at producers or the bryan feed store, so where might i find that? or is there really a difference between the lime and oyster shell lime?
I do a quick poop scoop in my run each day and bury it in my compost. I sometimes get a "farmy" smell in my coop, but no smell at all in my run. I have a layer of woodchips, so I think the poop I miss from my scooping gets turned under the chips and then dries out.
Keeping dry is the key, I think. I might have a tougher time this fall... that's when I'll buy the Sweet PDZ!
Hi! I live in the low desert and it gets HOT! Sooo, we got a patio-mister (we have a very large area for our chickens; covered, etc.) that's when I started to notice the smell. Yep, water + chickens = SMELL alright!!! It wasn't like that until the misters were on for a week or so.
I now turn the mister off unless it is really needed. Our hens are pretty spoiled enough so as long as they're just comfortable...
If you have a lot of moisture in your chicken area maybe that is part of your problem? All I can suggest is that you try to keep it as dry as possible in your chicken run.
Wish I had more for you.
God bless you!
Chihuahuas and chickens-girl
Hi! This isn't about chickens; I was wondering if there is a chat or something that you are in for the agility. I am intrigued by the fact that you use Scotties! Very cool. I am dog groomer, trainer and breeder of Boston Terriers and Chihuahuas. I cant wait to tell my friend/boss about your Scotties tomorrow at work. She is going to love this!