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American Mastiff/Pyrenees mixes?

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Has anyone heard of an American Mastiff?  I am supposed to be getting a puppy Monday that is half American Mastiff and half Great Pyrenees.  The American Mastiff seems to be a mix of an English Mastiff and Anatolian Shepherd.  When I looked them up, I thought they looked like a Mastiff/Dane mix.  These are working dogs, and are living with goats now.  I have 2 goats, but also want them to work with the chickens.  Does anyone have any suggestions or tips?  I am planning on her sleeping with the goats, if the goats will let her.  Otherwise, she will sleep with the chickens.  She is 10 1/2 wks old.  She looks like a Pyr with some brown blotches on her head.

I'd love to hear if anyone has any experience with the American Mastiffs.  I'm somewhat familiar with the Pyrenees, but I had never heard of the other.

Plus, any training tips, etc.  We have had English Mastiffs in the past, but I think these will be a much different type of dog.  She will be outside only.  Strictly a working dog from working dog stock.  My DH and I have been around dogs all our lives, so we know the basics and some advanced training, but nothing about LGD training.  Anything will help!

Thanks!  We are SOOOO excited!!!

Shelly

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Wow!  I would have thought that someone on here would have had one or heard of them!  th  Now I am a little nervous about getting it.  hide  We love English Mastiffs, and know the Anatolian and Pyrenees are great LGDs...but maybe there is a reason no one on here has one? 

C'mon people!  I need some reassurance here!  LOL!  barnie

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I Googled American Mastiff - THEY ARE HUMONGOUS!  I have a PYR that weighs 150 lbs (not fat, just BIG), and he has chronic knee problems.  Huge dogs are cool, but I certainly suggest setting up a vet fund with AT LEAST $1000 to start.  I would do some serious research so you know what to possibly expect.  I've seen Great Pyr/border collie crosses (and met a few).  They seem like awesome dogs and a good mix.  Both breeds are, for the most part, known for their common sense.  The border collie adds the trainability and health factors, while the Pyr is the best guardian.
Good luck!

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I knew of someone that had a mastiff and their dog was very sweet and smart!  They are protective too!

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I have an English Mastiff pup...hes a sweetheart! but i dont know anything about American Mastiffs...i know that Mastiffs used to be bred for guard dogs ....so they have a high potential to be protective of their owners....they say a Mastiff will step in front of you and stand guard to protect you if they feel theres a threat to you. its supposedly a strong instinct in them. *i would never let mine do that though...i dont want a guard dog..OR a law suit!... lol  *  They also have the name of the Gentle Giant.


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I prefer an ugly truth to a pretty lie. If someone is telling me the truth that is when i will give my heart. ~ Jack Nicholson 

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My BIL has a american mastiff mix. THe laziest animal in the world until it gets dark and he doesnt know you than watch out. But he is awesome with kids and even gives rides to toddlers and gets bossed around by a mini pin.
his littermate was as evil as a junkyard dog, and thats what he is now.


Edited by conny63malies - 4/11/09 at 3:04pm

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Originally Posted by conny63malies 

My BIL has a american mastiff mix. THe laziest animal in the world until it gets dark and he doesnt know you than watch out. But he is awesome with kids and even gives rides to toddlers and gets bossed around by a mini pin.
his littermate was as evil as a junkyard dog, and thats what he is now.


That is really interesting that it gets super protective at night!  This has been raised with goats since the day it was born.  Apparently, the mom (pyr) herded the goats into the corner when a bobcat broke in, and the dad (Am. Mast.) held it back til the people could get it out of there.  So, I thought it sounded like a really good mix.  I was a little concerned about the Mastiff mix (we've had one...really wonderful dogs, but really an inside dog, not outside) but since it is mixed with Anatolian, I thought it would be a perfect LGD. 

I guess time will tell...anyone have suggestions on how to bond them to the goats and chickens?  And will they accept new animals and protect them?  Like dd's lamb she will be getting soon.  idunno  I was just planning on putting the puppy in with the goats when I put them up at night.  I am too nervous to put her in with the chickens.  But I will let her out with them (supervised) when I free range them during the day. 

I think I am really just wanting to know what has worked for people on here as far as training their LGD's.  This is my first experience with one.  We've had big dogs (mastiffs), stubborn dogs (english bulldogs), herding dogs (blue heelers), but never anything like this that is strictly a working dog.  I don't want to screw it up!  LOL!  hide

Thanks everyone!

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I have a 4-year-old American Mastiff and also own and operate the American Mastiff Family website and forum.  There are only 10 approved breeders in the US and Canada who breed American Mastiffs that can be traced to the breed founder, Fredericka Wagner of Flying W Farms in Piketon, Ohio.  If the parent of the puppy is an AM of Flying W Farms lineage mixed with a Pyrenees, the person who owns the AM definitely went against the breeder's contract when he/she bred this dog. 

American Mastiffs are INDOOR dogs only.  The are very sensitive and must be close to their families. 

Here are a few links regarding the American Mastiff from Flying W lineage....

http://www.flyingwfarms.com/01%20DOGS%20MAIN%20PAGE%20USE.htm

http://www.dogbreedinfo.com/americanmastiff.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Mastiff

http://www.americanmastifffamily.com/

There is another breed that goes by the name "American Mastiff Panja."  This is a completely different breed with Rotties and Pitbulls as strong influences in the breed.  Please see below links....

http://www.dogbreedinfo.com/americanmastiffpanja.htm

Michelle Parlier
www.AmericanMastiffFamily.com

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Originally Posted by conny63malies 

My BIL has a american mastiff mix. THe laziest animal in the world until it gets dark and he doesnt know you than watch out. But he is awesome with kids and even gives rides to toddlers and gets bossed around by a mini pin.
his littermate was as evil as a junkyard dog, and thats what he is now.


That is really interesting that it gets super protective at night!  This has been raised with goats since the day it was born.  Apparently, the mom (pyr) herded the goats into the corner when a bobcat broke in, and the dad (Am. Mast.) held it back til the people could get it out of there.  So, I thought it sounded like a really good mix.  I was a little concerned about the Mastiff mix (we've had one...really wonderful dogs, but really an inside dog, not outside) but since it is mixed with Anatolian, I thought it would be a perfect LGD. 

I guess time will tell...anyone have suggestions on how to bond them to the goats and chickens?  And will they accept new animals and protect them?  Like dd's lamb she will be getting soon.  idunno  I was just planning on putting the puppy in with the goats when I put them up at night.  I am too nervous to put her in with the chickens.  But I will let her out with them (supervised) when I free range them during the day. 

I think I am really just wanting to know what has worked for people on here as far as training their LGD's.  This is my first experience with one.  We've had big dogs (mastiffs), stubborn dogs (english bulldogs), herding dogs (blue heelers), but never anything like this that is strictly a working dog.  I don't want to screw it up!  LOL!  hide

Thanks everyone!

Shelly


He is outside all night long and just waits for people to break in and get into his yard. He will ot let anybody in his yard unless he knows them or my BIL says its okay. But he has one bad habit, he will kill small animals that go in his yard and unfortunatley killed a cat. He is not the sparpest tool in the shed, he is obsessed with firecrackers. When we threw the little ones he would run and catch them and let them explode in his mouth. So we had to move our party to the frontyard. It didnt hurt him since it was only the whee little crackers. But please dont repeat!!!!!

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