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The truth about red cedar bedding.

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I want to lay to rest some of the rumors about red cedar bedding and bedding in general.
Is red cedar bedding toxic to chickens?

Answer: Western red cedar and Eastern white cedar have large concentrations of Plicatic acid which when breathed in can cause asthma in all animals. Most woods contain Plicatic acid, cedars more so than others, but pine also has it. Pine also has abietic acids which also causes asthma and lung disease. Eastern red cedar on the otherhand is not a cedar, it is a juniper and contains less plicatic acid than true cedars. The scent of the cedar is not what is toxic to your animals...it is the hydrocarbon acids that are admitted into the air as the bedding breaks down.

Good ventilation is the answer in keeping your animals safe from the hydrocarbons being admitted from their bedding material.  Don't avoid cedar beddings for fear it will harm you chickens. When mixed into other bedding material and with good ventilation it is very useful in mite control and keeping the coop smelling clean.

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Yup! And ask the guy at the feed store if that bag of shavings is Eastern Red Cedar, or Western Red Cedar, or not cedar at all, and I promise you he's going to look at you with a blank stare....

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What difference does it make if the bag of pine shavings you buy instead is going to emit hydrocarbons just like the cedar?
The key is to have plenty of ventilation no matter what wood bedding product you use.

Another option is to turn the bag over and see where it was processed at....Western Red Cedar does not grow in Eastern states.....

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Pine shavings do not emit nearly the amount of hydrocarbons as cedar - any type - does.  Why take a chance?  Especially since Pine is typically so much more readily available?

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~Courage is fear that has said its prayers.~

 

SPECIALIZING IN:  Jersey Giants.  Black Copper Marans. Blue Marans. Silver Penciled Plymouth Rocks.  

Click to view my website.

Just for fun:  First & second generation "olive eggers," and a few ducks - Welsh Harlequin, Black Swedish, Black Runner.

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post #5 of 7

Sugarbush is right, I have used cedar shavings in well ventilated areas without any problems.
ETA: I use pine shaving because its easier to find and cheaper. smile


Edited by B. Saffles Farms - 4/29/09 at 8:13am
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Personally, I will continue to avoid it, better to be safe then sorry!!

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Originally Posted by Wynette 

Pine shavings do not emit nearly the amount of hydrocarbons as cedar - any type - does.  Why take a chance?  Especially since Pine is typically so much more readily available?


I just want to point out that the amount is irrelevant in an area of poor ventilation.....

Would you feel more safe living in a house with asbestos only as floor tile than living in one that has asbestos on the water pipes and floor tiles?
Long term exposure is long term exposure....regardless of the amount.

A person recieving cigarette smoke second hand is at just as much risk over time of developing lung cancer as the person actually smoking the cigarette. Obviously the person smoking the cigarette is getting a higher concentration, but the risk for the other person is still there...

Now back to pine vs cedar: In the city cedar is more readily available because it is often all that a pet shop has. After all; this is BACK yard chickens...not the Back 40 chickens wink I am presenting the information for those who can't run down the road to a local feed store other than TSC if they are lucky... and TSC around here often only have cedar shavings...

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