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for the type that uses pipes, instead of cattle panels, does anyone have a recommendation on an appropriate pipe/tube size and type of tube that will stand up to uv rays?  i saw that some people used pvc pipes, but that was, notably, in oregon...

if so, please let me know

and if i were to use the cattle panels, do they roll up so that they'd fit in the back of my truck?  i have an eight foot bed but they're sixteen feet long, right?


I used the Grey PVC for electrical use. Its UV stabilized but just like white PVC it will turn black in the sun over time.


what diameter did you use?

i'm thinking about trying a smaller hoop house with the pvc and see how that goes before i take the cap off of my truck

then again i could get a yard of compost from the guy up the hill if i had the cap off....


I did that! I have two small hoop houses using the gray PVC pipe found in electrical aisles. Diameter is not more than an inch. I made a wood base with 8-foot 4x4s for the sides and 6-foot 2x4s for the ends. I use a hole drill like for door knob installation to sink the pipes (I used 5 pipes spaced equally) down into the wood at least an inch. Then I drill a long deck screw into the pipe and wood to secure it. I cover the whole thing with the heavy plastic netting and then with a tarp that protects most of it from rain. I frame in a doorway and attach a screen covered door. Ends are covered with more plastic netting. I wish I had a picture, but I don't think I've taken any. It ends up being only about 4 feet high. I'm 5' 3" so I can duck in and do some work.

I raised up my small batch of meaties in one last summer. Worked great.

I also have a large hoop house made from cattle panels that I've used two years now (including for winter housing). I don't use the small plastic ones in winter, though. I haven't had a predator issue with them -- yet.

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Seeking blessings found in the old ways.

Too many birds! Breeding groups of these for 2013: Silver Grey Dorkings, Red Dorkings, Wheaten Marans, Blue/Black/Splash LF Cochin, Saxony ducks, Muscovy ducks, Embden geese. Ohio NPIP certified #31-425.

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post #192 of 307
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Originally Posted by latebloomer 

perchie.girl :

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Originally Posted by latebloomer 

for the type that uses pipes, instead of cattle panels, does anyone have a recommendation on an appropriate pipe/tube size and type of tube that will stand up to uv rays?  i saw that some people used pvc pipes, but that was, notably, in oregon...

if so, please let me know

and if i were to use the cattle panels, do they roll up so that they'd fit in the back of my truck?  i have an eight foot bed but they're sixteen feet long, right?


I used the Grey PVC for electrical use. Its UV stabilized but just like white PVC it will turn black in the sun over time.


what diameter did you use?

i'm thinking about trying a smaller hoop house with the pvc and see how that goes before i take the cap off of my truck

then again i could get a yard of compost from the guy up the hill if i had the cap off....


I didnt make a hoop house with it I made a Travois for training my draft horse to be a carriage horse.  I was told by others that PVC wouldnt work for that because it was too flimsy.  Because I was stubborn and knew a little more about plasics I went with the heavy wall Grey from the electrical department.  It was four inches in diameter... LOL.  That was ten years ago.  I still have it somewhere.

For a hoop house depending on size of house I would check out the small diameter stuff as small as you can find.  If it seems flimsy use more hoops.  Last time I priced the stuff to run phone lines to the house it was 99 cents for ten feet.    (I have to run a thousand feet in a semi temporary fix)

I have been thinking about hoop houses from this and other conversations and have some Ideas I am going to sketch up....  I will share if I come up with anything worthwile.

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deb always learning

 

I don't have help at my place except the goats....  Well um they are just company you cant turn your back on.... more like hyper active neighbor kids coming to see what your doing..... Well they aren't much help at all.... Oh well.

 

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post #193 of 307

i've called around to a few lumber yards and electrical supply houses and found that they're selling electrical pvc conduit in ten foot long sections, they're suggesting couplers to join sections

i think i need about sixteen foot lengths to do what i want to do

does anyone know if using the couplings will work, or will they just be a weak link?

i appreciate your input.

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post #194 of 307

We used the couplers on ours. Started with 2 ft straight then added 10 ft sections to make the hoop. It ended up being tall enough for me to stand in. About 6 ft in the middle. I think we used 1 inch diameter.

post #195 of 307

that's very helpful information, thank you.

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post #196 of 307

The place I got my conduit was Home Depot.

The conduit  they have has a flaired end for coupling into another conduit.

I was thinking about the length thing the other night.  And While the Connections you make will be very strong they will also be less flexible.  I would experiment with it.  But It would probably work best if you make the connections Off center.  LOL  I am kind of OCD so I would split one and tag the extra length on each end.    So if the hoop needs to be sixteen feet long Id do eight feet then ten feet then eight feet.  but thats me. 

OH and do yourself a favor buy a PVC cutter.  They are about ten bucks and slice through pvc with a ratcheting action.  No sawing or saw dust.  The one I have is good for pipe up to 2 inches in diameter.  I built some Cat enclosures once using pvc and corners and the whole thing went together in record time.

deb always learning

 

I don't have help at my place except the goats....  Well um they are just company you cant turn your back on.... more like hyper active neighbor kids coming to see what your doing..... Well they aren't much help at all.... Oh well.

 

(1)Percheron(1)Dog (3)Cats(3)Goats(10)Guineas (17)Welsumers (2)Silkys(2)Auracanas

 

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deb always learning

 

I don't have help at my place except the goats....  Well um they are just company you cant turn your back on.... more like hyper active neighbor kids coming to see what your doing..... Well they aren't much help at all.... Oh well.

 

(1)Percheron(1)Dog (3)Cats(3)Goats(10)Guineas (17)Welsumers (2)Silkys(2)Auracanas

 

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post #197 of 307

Thanks for all the inspiration on this thread.  I scrounged some lumber, bought hinges, pvc, latches and had the rest here is the nearly finished house.

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post #198 of 307

One thing I'd like to add to this. I made one of these last year to house some young birds for the winter. For them, it worked fine. However, this year I have 8 LF birds in one of these that measures 8' X 8' at the base. There's a lot of feather picking going on and I have to move it almost daily so they aren't in a mud hole. So if you plan to keep a small flock of LF in these I'd suggest making it twice as big...preferably at least 8' X 16' smile

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post #199 of 307
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Cattle panels will roll -sort of-   Stick one side into the bed, then tuck the other side down so it forms an arch.  You really need to use a tie down across the top to hold the arch while you drive too... though i've never heard of them 'popping' out, still some places won't help you load them out if you don't tie them down.  If you are worried about scratching your truck bed... you don't have a real truck, (or you can lay blankets in there on each edge).


i'm not worried about the truck bed, but i did forget one key piece of information,  i have a cap on the truck.

does that make a real truck, or not?


latebloomer, you'll be fine.  Our cattle panels folded nicely into a "tear drop shape" and we could fit 3 of them snugly into our 8 foot bed w/ cap.  Once you get them bent into that shape they stay that way fairly easily, and the guys at TSC were a dream with helping us get them loaded.

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post #200 of 307

LOVE it, my new project IF I can figure out how to get these panels home    caf

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