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Originally Posted by Country Chickens View Post

When you say blue, are you talking about the kind that is linked with splash, or the kind that has darker hackles and I see listed as blue in shows?  Or, are they the same?  My feeling is that the kids will be best off if what they start with in parents will pretty much show up in offspring--so black parents=black offspring, etc.  Is that not the case in blue?  What about mottled?  I'm sure they can branch out later, but I think keeping it simple at first will be a better plan.  Sorry to have so many questions!  Btw, I've gone over to Cochin international and looked around.  My, they have some beautiful birds!  I think I'm getting a better eye for what a cochin is supposed to look like in a general way, but there are finer points about it's feet, eyes, etc that I can't seem to keep stuffed in my brain. hmm.png  Well, I suppose we'll learn. smile.png

 



 

 



Blue to Blue = 50% Blue, 25% Splash, 25% Black
Splash to Blue = 50% Blue, 50% Splash
Splash to Black = 100% Blue
Splash to Splash = 100% Splash
Blue to Black = 50% Blue, 50% Black
Black to Black = 100% Black

 


Edited by wildwoodcochins - 2/22/12 at 12:47pm

Wildwood Cochins~ www.wildwoodaviary.com   Brown Red, Mille Fleur, Calico & Mottled. Ramsey, Indiana

Calico Cochin Thread!   http://www.backyardchickens.com/t/571812/calico-cochin-thread

Breeders Directory~  http://www.backyardchickens.com/t/446055/2012-cochin-breeders-directory

Cochins International~ http://www.cochinsint.com/

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Wildwood Cochins~ www.wildwoodaviary.com   Brown Red, Mille Fleur, Calico & Mottled. Ramsey, Indiana

Calico Cochin Thread!   http://www.backyardchickens.com/t/571812/calico-cochin-thread

Breeders Directory~  http://www.backyardchickens.com/t/446055/2012-cochin-breeders-directory

Cochins International~ http://www.cochinsint.com/

Photo Bucket~   Wildwood Cochins http://s1098.photobucket.c...

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post #8432 of 14480
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Originally Posted by Country Chickens View Post

When you say blue, are you talking about the kind that is linked with splash, or the kind that has darker hackles and I see listed as blue in shows?  Or, are they the same?  My feeling is that the kids will be best off if what they start with in parents will pretty much show up in offspring--so black parents=black offspring, etc.  Is that not the case in blue?  What about mottled?  I'm sure they can branch out later, but I think keeping it simple at first will be a better plan.  Sorry to have so many questions!  Btw, I've gone over to Cochin international and looked around.  My, they have some beautiful birds!  I think I'm getting a better eye for what a cochin is supposed to look like in a general way, but there are finer points about it's feet, eyes, etc that I can't seem to keep stuffed in my brain. hmm.png  Well, I suppose we'll learn. smile.png

 


 

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Originally Posted by Mr. Ree View Post

Just remember, Splash is not an accepted variety and can only receive BV or RV and nothing more. But if you do choose to go with Blue you need to breed in Splash to get the good Blue color that is desired, as well as Black.

 

~Casey



 

The (Andalusian) Blue gene (Bl) is considered incomplete dominant, and will produce (based on an average of 100 chicks hatched), the following offspring:

 

Blue  X Blue = 50% Blue . 25% Black , 25% Splash

Blue  X Splash  = 50% Blue , 50% Splash 

Blue X Black = 50% Blue, 50% Black

Splash X Black = 100% Blue  

Black X Black  = 100% Black 

Splash X Splash = 100% Splash

 

http://www.cochinsint.com/uploads/8/8/2/1/8821267/pics_blue_bantams.pdf

 

 

~Gail~ My 2003 Mid-Life Crisis:  My small backyard flock of Bantams:  Coopa Cabana Cochins!  In 2013, my focus will be to continue working to improve my Golden Laced Bantam Cochins - the Midas Project!
Got Cochins?  Want Cochins?  Check out the
2012 Cochin Breeders Directory!
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~Gail~ My 2003 Mid-Life Crisis:  My small backyard flock of Bantams:  Coopa Cabana Cochins!  In 2013, my focus will be to continue working to improve my Golden Laced Bantam Cochins - the Midas Project!
Got Cochins?  Want Cochins?  Check out the
2012 Cochin Breeders Directory!
NPIP #84-111.  Member ABA; Cochins International; Rocky Mountain Feather Fanciers.

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post #8433 of 14480

That's very interesting. How do you get Partridge color? Can you only get it from PartridgeXPartridge? What about the Gold Laced and Silver Laced, how do you get those?

 

post #8434 of 14480
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Originally Posted by Squawkbox View Post

That's very interesting. How do you get Partridge color? Can you only get it from PartridgeXPartridge? What about the Gold Laced and Silver Laced, how do you get those?


 

Yes Partridge is PartridgexPartridge. Even then only a few have proper lacing and or correct feather shaft colors. Gold Laced and Silver Laced are GLxGL and SLx SL. Easiest and cheapest way to get any of these colors is to buy them. All are relatively scarce if looking for good quality birds. GL and SL works in progress birds are still better than hatchery quality but not yet up to the quality level of solid color birds.

Craig

Bantam Cochins in Black, Birchen, Columbian and Buff Columbian. Now also have Sliver Penciled and Partridge. Working on a Silver Laced Project. Gold Laced project, and now a few White and White Frizzle.

 

Here's the link: for Cochin International:  www.cochinsint.com

 

another link:

http://www.backyardchickens.com/a/my-feather-anatomy-guide

 

lots of information to read:

http://www.backyard...


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Bantam Cochins in Black, Birchen, Columbian and Buff Columbian. Now also have Sliver Penciled and Partridge. Working on a Silver Laced Project. Gold Laced project, and now a few White and White Frizzle.

 

Here's the link: for Cochin International:  www.cochinsint.com

 

another link:

http://www.backyardchickens.com/a/my-feather-anatomy-guide

 

lots of information to read:

http://www.backyard...


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post #8435 of 14480

Hmm that sucks. Partridge is my favorite but I can't for the life of me find them anywhere! I have a few right now and a few chicks that are the offspring of these but besides that I just can't find them.

Thanks for clearing it up. So, which is the most dominant color for Cochins?

post #8436 of 14480
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Originally Posted by Squawkbox View Post

Hmm that sucks. Partridge is my favorite but I can't for the life of me find them anywhere! I have a few right now and a few chicks that are the offspring of these but besides that I just can't find them.

Thanks for clearing it up. So, which is the most dominant color for Cochins?

Black

 

Sent you a PM
 

 

Bantam Cochins in Black, Birchen, Columbian and Buff Columbian. Now also have Sliver Penciled and Partridge. Working on a Silver Laced Project. Gold Laced project, and now a few White and White Frizzle.

 

Here's the link: for Cochin International:  www.cochinsint.com

 

another link:

http://www.backyardchickens.com/a/my-feather-anatomy-guide

 

lots of information to read:

http://www.backyard...


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Bantam Cochins in Black, Birchen, Columbian and Buff Columbian. Now also have Sliver Penciled and Partridge. Working on a Silver Laced Project. Gold Laced project, and now a few White and White Frizzle.

 

Here's the link: for Cochin International:  www.cochinsint.com

 

another link:

http://www.backyardchickens.com/a/my-feather-anatomy-guide

 

lots of information to read:

http://www.backyard...


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post #8437 of 14480

Okay, so blue in cochines behaves the same as with silkie--don't know why I thought is was different, but I did.  So, blue is out as well then--at least for the start up color.  What about mottled?  Does motledxmotled just pruduce motled?  I know we'll have to work on type, etc., I'm just trying to simplify one portion of the equation!

 

So, if you'll forgive me for asking one more question...what do you think of these birds?  I got them from a local guy who was selling off all his bantams.  He was advertizing them as show quality, but even I can see the hens tail is too stiff and neither of them look like the birds I see on here.  What do you think--are they breedable?  Or just pet quality?

Cochin Hen 2-2012.jpg

 

Black Cochin roo 2-2012.jpg

Don't mind the weird color of the roos eye--that's just the camera.  His eye color is the same as the hens, and they are both a shiny black.

post #8438 of 14480

He looks more like he's blinking. thats what their eylids look like.

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Ha!  That's funny.  I thought I caught him giving me the evil eye! lol

 

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He looks more like he's blinking. thats what their eylids look like.



 

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Originally Posted by Country Chickens View Post

Okay, so blue in cochines behaves the same as with silkie--don't know why I thought is was different, but I did.  So, blue is out as well then--at least for the start up color.  What about mottled?  Does motledxmotled just pruduce motled?  I know we'll have to work on type, etc., I'm just trying to simplify one portion of the equation!

 

So, if you'll forgive me for asking one more question...what do you think of these birds?  I got them from a local guy who was selling off all his bantams.  He was advertizing them as show quality, but even I can see the hens tail is too stiff and neither of them look like the birds I see on here.  What do you think--are they breedable?  Or just pet quality?

Cochin Hen 2-2012.jpg

 

Black Cochin roo 2-2012.jpg

Don't mind the weird color of the roos eye--that's just the camera.  His eye color is the same as the hens, and they are both a shiny black.


I would not call them SQ if I was selling them. Hens tail not good. Check out post 8380 on this thread for what a good tail/cushion is like. If I was in North Carolina I would be talking to Judy Gannt who has real SQ birds. If she didn't have any she might know who does.

 

Bantam Cochins in Black, Birchen, Columbian and Buff Columbian. Now also have Sliver Penciled and Partridge. Working on a Silver Laced Project. Gold Laced project, and now a few White and White Frizzle.

 

Here's the link: for Cochin International:  www.cochinsint.com

 

another link:

http://www.backyardchickens.com/a/my-feather-anatomy-guide

 

lots of information to read:

http://www.backyard...


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Bantam Cochins in Black, Birchen, Columbian and Buff Columbian. Now also have Sliver Penciled and Partridge. Working on a Silver Laced Project. Gold Laced project, and now a few White and White Frizzle.

 

Here's the link: for Cochin International:  www.cochinsint.com

 

another link:

http://www.backyardchickens.com/a/my-feather-anatomy-guide

 

lots of information to read:

http://www.backyard...


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