Cochin Thread!!! - Page 897

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Originally Posted by wildwoodcochins 

I have enjoyed following this cochin thread, learned so much, met some really nice folks, enjoyed seeing pictures of everyone's birds, tried not to step on anyone's toes, loved sharing my pictures of my birds~

Sadly and honestly though, I'm almost afraid to post anything on here anymore 

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Originally Posted by WestKnollAmy 

I read a lot of the talk on here but seldom post either. I notice a bit of ........um.....difference to what I feel about my birds.

I breed the best to the best and hope for the best. I have some awesome birds but do not show them personally. I have people buy from me and show them and keep quiet about where they got them when they do well. That is fine for me. I get a snicker out of them beating breeders that like to brag about how great theirs are and thumb their noses at "beginners". I am not here for fame and fortune. I just love sharing my love for Cochins.

 

I know we all love them and I am one of those that works on several different kinds of projects with them and breed a few pens of just type instead of color since that is only icing on the cake and still just as sweet. They are still Cochins whether or not they are accepted into the SOP.

 

I will keep reading on here but won't post as much because some of my friends have been hurt and some no longer even own Cochins because of this thread and breeders at the shows. It can't hurt me because as I have said, I breed for what I like and no one else. It just so happens I love a well balanced Cochin that has been around for many, many years and came from another country.

I hear ya both~! That's why my post count is so low although I have been a member for nearly 4 years........

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Originally Posted by wildwoodcochins 

I have enjoyed following this cochin thread, learned so much, met some really nice folks, enjoyed seeing pictures of everyone's birds, tried not to step on anyone's toes, loved sharing my pictures of my birds~

Sadly and honestly though, I'm almost afraid to post anything on here anymore 

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Originally Posted by WestKnollAmy 

I read a lot of the talk on here but seldom post either. I notice a bit of ........um.....difference to what I feel about my birds.

I breed the best to the best and hope for the best. I have some awesome birds but do not show them personally. I have people buy from me and show them and keep quiet about where they got them when they do well. That is fine for me. I get a snicker out of them beating breeders that like to brag about how great theirs are and thumb their noses at "beginners". I am not here for fame and fortune. I just love sharing my love for Cochins.

 

I know we all love them and I am one of those that works on several different kinds of projects with them and breed a few pens of just type instead of color since that is only icing on the cake and still just as sweet. They are still Cochins whether or not they are accepted into the SOP.

 

I will keep reading on here but won't post as much because some of my friends have been hurt and some no longer even own Cochins because of this thread and breeders at the shows. It can't hurt me because as I have said, I breed for what I like and no one else. It just so happens I love a well balanced Cochin that has been around for many, many years and came from another country.

I agree, I love my bantam cochins, and while i'm not showing at the moment, i'm trying to build up what quality and stock i have right now.

but if only the "pros" have anything to say, and won't answer questions posed by 'newbies' then how is anyone likely to learn anything when they ask questions? 

i'll hop off my soap box now, and go back to being one of the stupid silly newcomers who's actually been breeding cochins off and on since 1995 and learned about them from someone who, in my opinion, is one of the best mentors I could ever have hoped for, and would (i would hope) never go off in a public forum on people who want to learn and may ask too many questions now and then...  if you've been around as long as you say then i'm sure you know him as well. and even tho he's not breeding cochins any more (at least as of the last time i spoke with him) Bob Hawes will always be the first one I go back to if i have any serious questions about something.

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Amy, you have been very nice to everyone I see you communicate with.  We haven't had any dealing yet, but you know how much I want your Mille blood in my project stock.  Your mottleds are gorgeous, imo, too.  I wish everyone was more like you.

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And this is where we enjoy everyone's company. We speak up for what we believe and what we love.

I talk with many of you on the MFC thread because we do enjoy working on that TOGETHER. I believe I could breed Cochins for the next 100 years and still not know as much as I would like about them. But I love my kids and love to hear all about everyone's here on BYC and the many other forums I am on.

As I said, I read more than I answer. I wish I could answer everyone's posts with my opinion but this thread flies along much too fast for me as I work the farm here by myself. Too much work, too many feathered friends and never enough hours in the day.

I do love to help "newbies" but I feel I am new my own self. I have only been breeding bantam Cochins for 7 years. And yes, I may hatch several hundred a year and I may study genetics continuously but as my sig line says.......science is still too young to understand. Experience is a great teacher but sharing experiences is gold!

I value all opinions and I often get tickled (only because I see myself asking the same things years ago) at questions from people just getting into this breed but no one is stupid. I may not know the answer but often wish I had time to throw in my 2 cents to maybe help someone else.

And not to slight the LF Cochins because I do love those, as well. I just do not often breed them since I only have "project" pair.

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Originally Posted by Reyvaughn 

Amy, you have been very nice to everyone I see you communicate with.  We haven't had any dealing yet, but you know how much I want your Mille blood in my project stock.  Your mottleds are gorgeous, imo, too.  I wish everyone was more like you.

Thank you. I treat people the way I like to be treated.

Open Letter to Everyone:

STOP THIS MADNESS!! 

We go thru this on this thread every 30 - 45 days, and I'll bet most all the other breed threads do as well.  We're here on the Cochin thread because of our mutual love of Cochins - whether in the backyard or the showhall . . . that does not mean that we all have to love our Cochins in the same way, or that we all must have the same expectations of the futures of our flocks, or that we all have to use the same feed, or practice the same breeding techniques.

This thread is several years old, and has almost 9,000 posts. 

As much as I'd often love to tell new people to go back and read the thread - we've been over this 50 times before; I take a deep breath. 

As much as I'd love to punch my monitor half a dozen times a day when some asks about nonsense crosses; I take a deep breath. 

As much as I'd love to slap some people who post pictures and ask what we think - but all they really want to hear is that they have the next Crossroads Grand Champion; I take a deep breath. 

As much as I'd like to tell people how to correctly spell "cockerel"; I take a deep breath. 

As much as I'd like to pound into folks heads to quit referring to their Self Blues as Lavenders; I take a deep breath. 

As much as I'd love to tell people to ask their question again after they've read their SOP; I take a deep breath.

As much as I'd throw eggs at those looking for show quality eggs; I take a deep breath.

As much as I'd like to expertly, and immediately, answer every single question on this thread - I'm only human - not a computer;  I have take a deep breath.

Please Everyone - Just Take a Deep Breath!

~Gail

It doesn't offend me, Craig. I like to think I am a nice person here too. I will help anyone I can, and may ask a question here and there as well. I'm not sure where I fit in (not a Newbie but not a Pro either). I have been breeding chickens and ducks since 2002 (10 years), but only really concentrated on Cochins in 2007 when I got fed up with Silkies. I have an APA SOP and I read it when I have time. I am trying to learn about genetics from Sonoran Silkies and George Mihalik. A lot of my knowledge is from trial and error, much faster than book learning, though both are good. I do show once or twice a year but I do not have the "show attitude". I treat people as I would like to be treated, no matter who they are. I breed for type, color and feather quality and sell the rest as pets. I would like to be considered a respectable breeder, but certainly not an expert. I feel we continue to learn throughout our lives. :)

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Originally Posted by Reyvaughn 

You know what irritates me?  You ask for help and you get ignored.  I'm a newbie.  I am not showing, but I want to.  My kids want to.  And I get no help when I ask about my birds.

 

As I made clear in a private PM, it seems you bigger, well known breeders don't want anyone else to own nice birds, learn about Cochins or be any kind of competition.  Like I said, I am a newbie, I have asked for help and got nothing but snarky replies or totally ignored.  Ignored seems to be the #1 answer.  It's not just this forum, but the other one, too.

 

I will admit, I don't read everything that gets posted.  I figure if I don't read it, I can't be offended.  What does offend me, I ignore - it seems to be the trend around here.

 

Amy, you have been very nice to everyone I see you communicate with.  We haven't had any dealing yet, but you know how much I want your Mille blood in my project stock.  Your mottleds are gorgeous, imo, too.  I wish everyone was more like you.

Amen!

I am not a breeder, and I'm not going to show my chickens.  They are more pets than anything else and I enjoy having (and giving away) fresh eggs.  I love to just sit in the pen and watch the chickens.  "Chick TV" is far more entertaining than most of what is available on TV these days, anyway.

So I come to this site to proudly share pics of my latest acquisitions - strictly as a backyard chicken owner - and either get ignored or told "You can't breed that!" - though I never mentioned anything about breeding that.  I breed, train, and have (successfully) shown purebred Arabian horses, Golden Retrievers, and Labrador Retrievers.  If I wanted a lesson in ethics or genetics, I would go to one of those breeding sites.  I thought this site was about and for those of us who do want to learn more about our chickens, but not necessarily interested in showing or breeding stock?  While I appreciate the depth of knowledge those who do breed and show (as well as the opportunity to get really nice chicks from them from time to time), I do wish there was a little more mentoring and sharing and a little less condemnation.

Thank you.  I will step down from my soapbox and let someone else take their turn.

Hi all!     Glad to get it all hatched out.  

Amy I have 'spoken' to you before and enjoyed our pm conversation. And others on here I do enjoy the knowledge you share.

I will try to remember to spell cockerel with an e and not an a.

Craig I hope you don't fly the coop.

Its a good day here!

~~~Peace~~~

~~~~~Kris (not a complete newbie~~~ lol)

PS Talking on a computer can be tricky especially if you are not used to it. It is sometimes hard to understand the true meaning of what someone is trying to convey.