To Worm or Not? And, Piperazine dosage for bantams?

chickitybickity said:

Unfortunately I can't do the vet thing, but I will definitely pick up the medicines that you had mentioned Kathy. Thank you.

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You don't need both, just pick one.

-Kathy

Pictures from:http://www.hopkinslivestock.com/oral_dosing_article.htm
The hole at the back of the tongue is the entrance to the trachea - Nothing should ever go in there!



Read this link:
http://www.hopkinslivestock.com/oral_dosing_article.htm

-Kathy

casportpony said:

Pictures from:http://www.hopkinslivestock.com/oral_dosing_article.htm The hole at the back of the tongue is the entrance to the trachea - Nothing should ever go in there! Read this link: http://www.hopkinslivestock.com/oral_dosing_article.htm -Kathy

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Thank you so much for this information. It was a lot of help.

My other question is this: the powder that I had gotten for the mites, is there another way to apply it than to flip them on their backs holding there legs up in the air while their backs are on a table or flat surface? My ladies still haven't wanted anything to do with me since I had done that on Sunday.

chickitybickity said:

My other question is this: the powder that I had gotten for the mites, is there another way to apply it than to flip them on their backs holding there legs up in the air while their backs are on a table or flat surface? My ladies still haven't wanted anything to do with me since I had done that on Sunday.

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That is why I prefer sprays to dusts. A few spritzes at the base of neck on the back, underside, around the vent, is quick and carries a residual dusts do not. Permectrin II, Ravap EC, Atroban 11% EC, are few labeled for use on poultry as well as premises. All you need is a spray bottle rated for use with chemicals. Most hardware or feed stores sell them.
http://www.thepoultrysite.com/articles/934/external-parasites-of-poultry

If you are going to dust anyway, laying a towel out on a table, you can take each bird, set it on the table, and manipulate the body in different positions while applying the dust. If you do it gently and efficiently, the birds won't panic. If it is your first time, have someone assist you.

I was not about to do this alone. I had help. I held my girls close to me while my friend was doing the dusting. They let me pull their wings out and rub on their necks, but I was covered in the dust from head to toe and it got all in my mouth. It was just not a good thing. My girls are more stressed out then had been since the move and I am just nervous about doing it again. I am afraid if I keep stressing them out, they are not going to ever lay again.

chickitybickity said:

I was not about to do this alone. I had help. I held my girls close to me while my friend was doing the dusting. They let me pull their wings out and rub on their necks, but I was covered in the dust from head to toe and it got all in my mouth. It was just not a good thing. My girls are more stressed out then had been since the move and I am just nervous about doing it again. I am afraid if I keep stressing them out, they are not going to ever lay again.

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They'll get over it and start to lay again unless they have something else going on.

-Kathy

chickitybickity said:

I was not about to do this alone. I had help. I held my girls close to me while my friend was doing the dusting. They let me pull their wings out and rub on their necks, but I was covered in the dust from head to toe and it got all in my mouth. It was just not a good thing. My girls are more stressed out then had been since the move and I am just nervous about doing it again. I am afraid if I keep stressing them out, they are not going to ever lay again.

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Lol. They'll lay again, don't worry. Next time, just use a spray labeled for poultry like those I mentioned. I understand if you don't want to use a spray during cold weather, then wear a dust mask. In fact, you should wear a dust mask rated for use with dusts/vapors when using sprays or dusts, and do it in a well ventilated area. Do it at night when birds are calm on the roost. Take one at a time and treat them, then set each one back on the roost. Another method for dusting, which is less likely to be dispersed in the air, is the use of a cut off section of panty hose. Make a sock, pour your dust in it, then tie it shut. Part the feathers and gently pat down the bird's body, paying attention to the vent. Always keep dusts away from the bird's face.

When my friend and I dusted the girls, we had done it at night and we did it outside in the back yard. All three ladies were resistant from being placed on their backs and I had to hold them close to me and spread out their wings while my friend dusted. It was definitely an adventure, not one I'd like to repeat. Lol. I like the panty-hose suggestion. When I go to reapply I think I will try that. Thank you.

@threehorseshi, if you are still there, will you give me the basics. I am a newbie with a new flock that I have never wormed. My birds are 9 25 week old RIR not laying yet, 2 buff/EE about 29 weeks, 3 Barred rocks 29 weeks, and two lavender Orpingtons 13 weeks and a young roo. Do I need the two stage worming or is there something simple I should do with my new flock. While I have numerous other farm animals, there have not been chickens here (horses,cows, goats, pigs). Thanks