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No big rush..... will you be going to the spring show in.... alma I believe. April 28th- I know we are going there..... just to look- not show


Yea; we plan on it. I think we are bringing a duck or two and a goose to show. We could bring the duccles there if you want.

 

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MI Chickenstock B/S/T thread: http://www.backyardchickens.com/t/737133/michigan-chickenstock-2013-buy-sell-trade

Bantam Cochins

Seramas

Muscovies, Calls, Runners

Sebastopols 

 

MI Chickenstock B/S/T thread: http://www.backyardchickens.com/t/737133/michigan-chickenstock-2013-buy-sell-trade

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Originally Posted by Wickischickies View Post



 


 

I wish I had only paid $3 a bird.  The color/breed I have sell for $8 to 10 per chick or 20 for adults.  There are only a small handful of breeders willing to ship.  I found only 2 or 3 in the US that will sell shipped hatching eggs, 3 sometimes 4 that sell chicks shipped.  When you have a few hundred dollars wrapped up in chickens the vet bill for testing is worth it. 

 

You are right if I had practiced better bio-security I may not be having this problem.  My adult coop seems very healthy, active, and looks great.  So I could assume that I didn't pass MG from my baby chicks to my adult coop.  But would you buy chicks from me knowing that my baby chicks were sneezing and all I did was medicate them?  Or maybe I should say nothing and do nothing because its common and they don't look or act sick.  I'm not trying to get nasty but there are only two possibilities I got this, either from an infected person coming on to my farm or the adult chickens I purchased a few years back as my starter flock already had it.  Either way the chicken owner had to know they had sneezing chickens and didn't care enough about other flock owners to find out why their flock is sneezing.  Or maybe they were new to chickens and thought it was normal.  Either way if we can pass along our information we can help reduce the spread. 

 

I only told my story because somewhere somehow my chicks got this disease.  If more people new to chickens knew about the disease and how to prevent the spread of it, we wouldn't be talking about it.  The problem is that you hear "when you do bring new birds in don't introduce them into your flock until after a minimum of a two weeks" which is only half of the new flock introduction.  The other half of that statement is:  take one of your flock members and put it with the quarantined new flock for another two weeks.  The new chicks/chickens may not show any symptoms of the disease until after you put them in your healthy flock.   

 

One thing I do know is that more people are likely to buy from a flock if they know they are not getting any diseases.  I also know that in order to show a bird (or sell chicks, eggs, or birds outside of Michigan) it must be NPIP certified.  Some states even require MG testing before being able to ship.  These laws are not to cost us extra money or inconvenience us, they were created to protect chickens from spreading deadly diseases and wiping out entire breeds/flocks.

I dont know if this is entirely true. I have sold many eggs and birds out of state and haven't had to be NPIP certified. No one ever stopped me. To show birds, yes you have to be certified. 
 

 

Bantam Cochins

Seramas

Muscovies, Calls, Runners

Sebastopols 

 

MI Chickenstock B/S/T thread: http://www.backyardchickens.com/t/737133/michigan-chickenstock-2013-buy-sell-trade

Bantam Cochins

Seramas

Muscovies, Calls, Runners

Sebastopols 

 

MI Chickenstock B/S/T thread: http://www.backyardchickens.com/t/737133/michigan-chickenstock-2013-buy-sell-trade

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Originally Posted by Opa View Post

I think everyone is worrying unnecessarily about testing and the possibility of buying a sick bird.  If a bird looks sick don't buy it.  Then when you do bring new birds in don't introduce them into your flock until after a minimum of a two weeks.   I don't have my birds tested and don't intend to.  No testing will take the place of practicing good bio-security. 

 

I personally would never spend money at a vet training to save a bird that can be replaced for $3.

I agree. thumbsup.gif

 

 

My coop  http://www.backyardchickens.com/t/386902/we-gave-the-chickens-our-bedroom-pic-heavy

 

"Friends, I will remember you, think of you & pray for you, & when another day is through, I will still be friends with you"--John Denver

 

 

I chickened out   

 

 


 

 

My coop  http://www.backyardchickens.com/t/386902/we-gave-the-chickens-our-bedroom-pic-heavy

 

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I chickened out   

 

 


 

 

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What Opa said.

21 chicks out with pips and zips all over big_smile.png

Home of the world's cutest dachshund, one crazy blue heeler, two cats,
              one fat pony, and many (but not too many!) chickens

              Can anyone tell me, how many are too many chickens?

 



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              one fat pony, and many (but not too many!) chickens

              Can anyone tell me, how many are too many chickens?

 



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post #38945 of 50938
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Originally Posted by Opa View Post

I think everyone is worrying unnecessarily about testing and the possibility of buying a sick bird.  If a bird looks sick don't buy it. 

I personally would never spend money at a vet training to save a bird that can be replaced for $3.



You don't just lose a bird with MG. You lose the whole flock. And carriers don't have symptoms.

 

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Here's some chicks at two weeks old.

 

A couple un named Sizzles.

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Showgirls, Terry for Terradactyl and Buzz 'cuz he has a helmet.

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My son's cochin's Stevie and Sparrow.

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Can anyone tell girls or boys at this point with these breeds?  I can't and figured I'd wait and see. 

 

I am very confused by many of my chicks that I ended up with only one of each breed.  I have no comparison for looking at the combs.  One Maran who is two months old I thought was a roo, now I'm not sure because the Maran who is a month old has a bigger comb than the two month old.  I guess I go with what you always say Opa - wait for a crow or an egg.

 

Any more chicks hatching tonight? 

"People who count their chickens before they are hatched act very wisely, because chickens run about so absurdly that it is impossible to count them accurately."

— Oscar Wilde

Trying to count my 60+ chickens.  Polish, Ameraucana, Welsummer, Cornish, Production Red, Cochin, Cuckcoo Maran, Black Austrolorp, Sizzle, Showgirl, Silkie, OEG, Partridge Rock, Russian Orloff, Dorking, Basque.  Tough...

"People who count their chickens before they are hatched act very wisely, because chickens run about so absurdly that it is impossible to count them accurately."

— Oscar Wilde

Trying to count my 60+ chickens.  Polish, Ameraucana, Welsummer, Cornish, Production Red, Cochin, Cuckcoo Maran, Black Austrolorp, Sizzle, Showgirl, Silkie, OEG, Partridge Rock, Russian Orloff, Dorking, Basque.  Tough...

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Heading north to Cadillac sat. For a bridal shower and Easter dinner sun.
Pro 27:23  Be thou diligent to know the state of thy flocks, and look well to thy herds.
Pro 27:23  Be thou diligent to know the state of thy flocks, and look well to thy herds.
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Please send my luck my way if ya'll have any to spare. I have two pekin drakes, in a dog crate in the coop with just water. They'll be going to freezer camp tomorrow morning. I plan to use paraffin wax to help remove stubborn down. And oh man, at eight weeks old, they are HEAVY! I can't wait to see what their dressed weight is after it is all said and done. I have six drakes total I need to do, but the rest will be done next weekend when I have some help.

My backyard flock: 9 Araucana girls, 2 Araucana boys, 1 Olive Egger!

 

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My backyard flock: 9 Araucana girls, 2 Araucana boys, 1 Olive Egger!

 

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I have 12 in the temp brooder. I have one zipping right now and should be out soon!

 

I'll try to get pictures of them all fluffy tomorrow. :)

I have 1 Lovely Husband, a Colorful Chicken Flock, French and English Angora Rabbits, 2 Bichons, and 1 Mangy Rescue.

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I have 1 Lovely Husband, a Colorful Chicken Flock, French and English Angora Rabbits, 2 Bichons, and 1 Mangy Rescue.

-Jaime

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You don't just lose a bird with MG. You lose the whole flock. And carriers don't have symptoms.

 



I believe Opa's point is that there's more than one way to skin a cat, or in this case, treat a bird and the vet isn't needed for a quick and efficient death. 

I arise in the morning torn between a desire to improve the world and a desire to enjoy the world. This makes it hard to plan the day.   - E.B. White

 

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I arise in the morning torn between a desire to improve the world and a desire to enjoy the world. This makes it hard to plan the day.   - E.B. White

 

No one can make you feel inferior without your consent. - Eleanor Roosevelt

 

The best way to be missed when you're gone is to stand for something while you're here. - Seth Godin

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