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Haha. well, I have heard of people taking that stance, but I am not sure whether or not they won. So.. that ticket still never got filed, right?

Do you know why the Destiny Farm people say that the MRTFA protects everyone in Michigan's right to have chickens, irregardless of where they are or what the local laws and ordinances are? I have heard of a number of people of winning this argument if they're willing to take it that far. Avoiding it entirely would be preferable, though.

You know what I think? I think it is an excellent opportunity to march on the man with pitchforks and torches, have a barrel fire and... and... hot cider, or something. Maybe donuts. It's been some 10 years since I have had a donut.... 

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Originally Posted by Juise 

Vinegar works really well, but it does also kill practically everything, so keep that in mind when using it. The boiling water is a good idea, as it should help kill the root as well as the having the vinegar kill the foliage. I have also heard that a bit of dishsoap in the mixture helps the vinegar bond to the leaves, or something like that? Anyway, it's effects on the soil are not supposed to be long lived, if you are planning on putting something else in.

Yes, not only is the weed killed but also the beneficial organisms living in the soil.  Then you are still left with the task of getting rid of the dead material.

It's just better to pull the weeds in the first place and be done with it. 

BTW if you go the vinegar route then get the horticulture strength, it's stronger than grocery store vinegar. 
 

Doesn't ROUND UP kill everything?

Does it leave harmful chemicals behind?

This is rather vague territory for me, but I believe there is round up you can spray on weeds in your lawn without effecting the lawn, and so forth...

But yes, it does leave harmful chemicals behind.

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Originally Posted by Juise 

This is rather vague territory for me, but I believe there is round up you can spray on weeds in your lawn without effecting the lawn, and so forth...

 

But yes, it does leave harmful chemicals behind.

When I moved here I was told that I can use Round Up in my yard and it will not effect my garden. Just wondering if you know why it would be a problem in the yard around the garden. Does anyone know a weed killer that is very effective but non toxic to the garden?
 

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Originally Posted by chicken grandma 
Doesn't ROUND UP kill everything?

Does it leave harmful chemicals behind?

I don't remember the chemical name off the top of my head, but it does reside in the soil for up to 100 days but not at levels high enough to kill new plants. However the affect on insects that eat those plants is deadly.

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Originally Posted by chicken grandma 
When I moved here I was told that I can use Round Up in my yard and it will not effect my garden. Just wondering if you know why it would be a problem in the yard around the garden. Does anyone know a weed killer that is very effective but non toxic to the garden? 

Another victim of marketing.  I'm not being glib, slick ads sell a lot of junk to smart people. I used to use the 4 step programme on my lawn but stopped several years ago. Now my lawn is healthier than ever and is largely weed free.

Unless you plan on wholesale destruction of your garden or lawn, the best weed control is manually removing the offender.  Elbow grease is 100% effective and safe for the environment.

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Originally Posted by RaZ 

There is only one way to kill that weed but most people don't like to use it.

 

It's Grease.

 

Good old fashioned Elbow Grease.

 

It is pretty easy too pull out, the roots are pretty shallow. 

I have used elbow grease every year, but it always wings...it comes from the neighbors yard, and puts down roots as it grows- then it branches out on its own..and it comes under the fence- the whole length, and it grows like...a weed...

I never ever win. DID YOU SEE my yard? I have no grass at all. I have algae...but I have this WEED growing and coming in and taking over...why doesnt it die? Grass wont grow, but this will..

I bought a White Pine just now. Gonna go plant it in the middle of my yard. Its about hip-high...then I am going to barricade it so that nothing can pick it clean...and then Im going to wait 199 years for it to grow as tall as my garage. 

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Originally Posted by RaZ 

Yes, not only is the weed killed but also the beneficial organisms living in the soil.  Then you are still left with the task of getting rid of the dead material.

 

It's just better to pull the weeds in the first place and be done with it. 

 

BTW if you go the vinegar route then get the horticulture strength, it's stronger than grocery store vinegar. 
 

 

Kids are gone for the night... time to get house work done. I don't feel like it. Maybe I am just in a resentful mood. But I am sick of being the only one to do any house work. Sick of my mom using her "I can see" mantra for not helping to dust or to vacuum, but she sure can see if the kids drop something. 

Better just get to it.

Best not get myself all tissed off.

I better go water the ducks first. Treat the chickens. That always calms....