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I've had broccoli bolt before.  I no longer even try to grow it in the spring, it recent years it seems like it gets too hot too soon and the harvest is never worthwhile.  Fall broccoli is a different story.  

 

I think I like SwapMDucks.  It has a ring to it.  LOL! 

 

 

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I cannot find where Olive got the idea that raccoons, or any other animal can be an actual "carrier" of rabies.  According to everything I have been able to find, an animal must have rabies in order to be able to give it to another animal.  If that is the criteria to be a carrier, then every animal is a carrier for every disease they are susecptable to.  Which makes the term meaningless.
 

 

I've seen the old logic train go down some pretty rickety tracks, but it appears this one has completely derailed.  hmm.png

 

The medical definition of  "carrier" is (paraphrasing) one who harbors the infectious agent of a disease without manifest symptoms.   The incubation period for rabies can be as much as 8 weeks long, during that time (as much as a couple of weeks prior to symptoms being present) the animal is capable of transmitting the disease, and is therefore, by definition, a "carrier".  In fact, that incubation period is an important aspect of rabies management in domestic animals and humans as the disease is virtually 100% fatal once symptoms appear.  It's during the incubation period that treatment can be effective and the reason treatment is encouraged after even suspected exposure in humans.  

 

This, of course, says nothing of the disease transmission they can and do accomplish after symptoms appear, but before they succumb to the disease.  


Edited by Olive Hill - 7/4/12 at 3:41pm

I arise in the morning torn between a desire to improve the world and a desire to enjoy the world. This makes it hard to plan the day.   - E.B. White

 

No one can make you feel inferior without your consent. - Eleanor Roosevelt

 

The best way to be missed when you're gone is to stand for something while you're here. - Seth Godin

I arise in the morning torn between a desire to improve the world and a desire to enjoy the world. This makes it hard to plan the day.   - E.B. White

 

No one can make you feel inferior without your consent. - Eleanor Roosevelt

 

The best way to be missed when you're gone is to stand for something while you're here. - Seth Godin

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I lost 7 five week old meaties by noon today.  Checked them at 11 am and they were ok, at noon 4 were dead and lost 3 more within a half hour but I was able to bring back 3 that were pretty bad off so I'm down to 19 hit.gif

Tough raising meaties this time of year.  Last year I started around easter and lost one.  This year I started earlier and had no losses.  Fall meaties can also be a challenge.  CX grow so fast their metabolism causes body heat way beyond normal DPs (not that your's are CX).  Good luck and watch the heat index the next few days.  A fan moving air some mist for evaporative cooling go a long way.  John

John "pop-pop" Anderson

Use it up, wear it out, make it do, or do without.
John "pop-pop" Anderson

Use it up, wear it out, make it do, or do without.
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Man, that really sucks. I went out early in the afternoon, put frozen 20 oz bottles in all the waterers, hosed down the pens, misted the crap out of everything for a while, trees, coops, hidey holes... Everyone ran like hell, but then they all settlled in under the bushes, coop... All are good.

I never thought of putting frozen water bottles right into the waterers. That is a heck of an idea! I will have to get a few frozen tonight. Thank you. I have been doing what I can for the birds..changing the water a few times a day,shade,  a fan on them. To say this heat has been brutal is an understatement.

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Yep, they were CX.  I knew it would be a gamble with July heat but MI is almost never this hot for this long.  I'm going to keep them in the garage with fans, freezer packs, and ice blocks in their water.  I had them separated in three groups and the one group just piled on top of each other and roasted in one big pile.  The same thing happened in the other group but on a smaller scale.  Been keeping everyone hosed down and shaded but it's amazing how fast things can happen in this heat.

9 Barred Rocks, 3 Buff Orpingtons,  3 RIR, 3 Black Jersey Giants, 1 Silver Laced Wyandotte, 4 easter Eggers, 5 Pekins, 2 Cayugas, and 10 new assorted chicks-what am I doing?

9 Barred Rocks, 3 Buff Orpingtons,  3 RIR, 3 Black Jersey Giants, 1 Silver Laced Wyandotte, 4 easter Eggers, 5 Pekins, 2 Cayugas, and 10 new assorted chicks-what am I doing?

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2 dogs, lots of guineas and too many chickens. No uggos! 

2 dogs, lots of guineas and too many chickens. No uggos! 

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It has been so hot the past couple of days. Tonight we are even going to the extreme and leaving the birds in their runs and not their coops and taking shifts to watch out for predators. That is what I call dedication! :)

Bantam Cochins

Seramas

Muscovies, Calls, Runners

Sebastopols 

 

MI Chickenstock B/S/T thread: http://www.backyardchickens.com/t/737133/michigan-chickenstock-2013-buy-sell-trade

Bantam Cochins

Seramas

Muscovies, Calls, Runners

Sebastopols 

 

MI Chickenstock B/S/T thread: http://www.backyardchickens.com/t/737133/michigan-chickenstock-2013-buy-sell-trade

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no schitt.
At the very least, wipe the poop off your feet before getting in the car.

"Member of the Derperella Club-- We're just all goin' round' the rooster, here!"
Good night sweet Trousers, The Derp Club will miss you.
Treasure the love you recieve above all. It will survive long after your gold and good health have vanished. Og Mandino
At the very least, wipe the poop off your feet before getting in the car.

"Member of the Derperella Club-- We're just all goin' round' the rooster, here!"
Good night sweet Trousers, The Derp Club will miss you.
Treasure the love you recieve above all. It will survive long after your gold and good health have vanished. Og Mandino
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Ive had the sprinkler on the chicken yard all day. I just checked on the girls- all are tucked into their sleeping spots- the Notmeatie is wet, the others stayed out of the sprinkler, but she must not have. No deaths, no collapses. Good. 

 

Bunny Foofoo is still with me. Slowly improving, cant say he has improved any further than this morning, maybe some more movement to his back legs- but not enough to actually move himself. I have been keeping ice with all the buns.. in the house. Its HOT in here. Very hot in here. Definitely cooler outside now than it is inside. The storm that almost was, well it brought about a ten degree drop that is very good. 

 

I have fans on the bunnies. Tricky with Foofoo. He cant move away or next to his ice pack- so I have it about an inch from him to cool him off with a fan blowing across him. 

“I know God will not give me anything I can’t handle. I just wish He didn’t trust me so much.” (Mother Teresa)

 

“I know God will not give me anything I can’t handle. I just wish He didn’t trust me so much.” (Mother Teresa)

 

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Those of you who are using the Duke DP traps might find you can improve your catch rate if you place a white Styrofoam cup with the bottom removed over the trap.  Since coons are curious creatures the white helps draw their attention to it. 

 

Another type of dog proof trap that is much easier to set, does no damage to the captured animal, and is easy to release is available from www.Cooncollector
 


Edited by Opa - 7/5/12 at 3:47am

When having problems with chickens stop and think, what would Harlan do?
I've dealt with many thorns in my life and the flower is always worth the effort.

6 Nest rollout nest box plans  http://www.backyardchickens.com/t/287684/new-rollout-nest-design-picture-heavy-edited-1-21

Smoker plans http://www.backyardchickens.com/t/721017/opas-recirculating-smoker

When having problems with chickens stop and think, what would Harlan do?
I've dealt with many thorns in my life and the flower is always worth the effort.

6 Nest rollout nest box plans  http://www.backyardchickens.com/t/287684/new-rollout-nest-design-picture-heavy-edited-1-21

Smoker plans http://www.backyardchickens.com/t/721017/opas-recirculating-smoker

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Sorry for your loss on the meaties- jrsckn

I was only able to stay in the lake for about 40 minutes for I had to go to work. he.gif It was miserable at work for it was so hot, that I was sweating non-stop for the whole time. Came home with a pounding headache. So hate the heat, can't wait for fall!

Did anyone wonder why the sky look hazy the past few days? Here is the answer- http://www.accuweather.com/en/home-garden-articles/earth-and-you/smoke-from-western-wildfires-r/67522

Rebuilding my Farm again thread- http://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=587948

Hatching eggs available!!! Icelandics, Coronation Sussex, Buff Orpington, Turken, Tomaru Longcrower, Mix banties
Turkeys- Bourbon RedOregon Gray, Red Slate
Geese- Embden
Mix colors of Guineas- Pearl, Pied, Buff Dunatte, White

Rebuilding my Farm again thread- http://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=587948

Hatching eggs available!!! Icelandics, Coronation Sussex, Buff Orpington, Turken, Tomaru Longcrower, Mix banties
Turkeys- Bourbon RedOregon Gray, Red Slate
Geese- Embden
Mix colors of Guineas- Pearl, Pied, Buff Dunatte, White

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