Potentially Interesting Thread

[crazy4chicsinBC]

BlueMoon
I agree with you
I too eat meat however,I I also only buy from local small farmers, where I know the animals have been raised in humane conditions, and butchered humanly. I have no problem with raising and buthering animals HUMANLY for food. However I have a huge problem with cruelty, or unnesasary killing of livestock. I have both egg and meat chickens which are taken care of equally well, and have a great standard of life. I wish every animal did.

 

[BlueMoon]

Crazy 4chicks - I absolutely agree with you. And ever since I took in chickens, I've been eating alot more eggs and much fewer birds.

When I started my quest for chickens, I came across a local farm sanctuary. I hadn't wanted to get mail order chicks and am reluctant to do it again. Anyhow, the helpful person at the sanctuary became hostile once she knew I was going to eat the eggs and then tried to get me to adopt all she had - one hen and 11 roosters! She didn't have a clue what life for that poor hen would have been like.

The organization that was most helpful was the heritage breeds conservatory, a sensible organization that promotes breeds, knowing people will eat meat and eggs.

As far as this being a potentially interesting thread, every thread I've read of yours, Hannah's Plaid Chickens, has been insightful and thought provoking.

 

[gritsar]

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Blue Moon, that statement reminded me of an argument I had with the manager of a chain pet store one time. I had gone there to buy a gerbil to feed the ball python I had. My ball python had been on a hunger strike, refusing to eat mice, and I was trying to tempt her with a gerbil, which is the closest thing to their natural food. They refused to sell me a gerbil for those purposes and suggested I feed her crickets or goldfish!

I calmly tried to explain to them, but no good. They said the gerbil had rights. I asked them what about my snakes rights/needs, for that matter what about the cricket and the goldfish's rights? I am an animal activist myself, but I think on some occasions they tend to go overboard.

 

[TransplantedTexan]

It's funny you mention that Gritstar.
I have had a similar experience. I have a 125 gallon aquarium with a Clown Knife fis that is about 20" long, and a South American catfish around the same length. They eat goldfish, about 5 dozen in two days. Then they don't eat for a little while. I buy these at the local Chain pet store.
A few years ago I went in for my purchase of golfish and they were out. The fish needed to eat, so I said give me a dozen Mollies. Mollies are ornamental fish they sell, mainly for kids tanks I think. I was only buying a dozen since they are around $.80 each, opposed to the $.15 each for goldfish. The girl started to get them for me, then when she realized what I was going to do she told me it was against company policy to sell those fish as feeders. I was astounded. Mind you, these fish are slightly different from goldfish, mainly just in shape and color.
I believe in treating animals ethicaly, but the U.s value system on these matters is all whacked up.
I agree, commercial chickens in the US are treated far worse.

 

[chickbea]

Hannah'sPlaidChickens :

I mean maybe they have never stopped to think about if the chickens/baby goats are afraid, hurt, and panicked. Maybe we could change this abuse.... Does anybody have any insight? Or do you know anybody or an organization who is already spreading the word to Africa about animal rights? Or ideas on how we could change things... (not us personally, but ways we might try if we could, I mean!)

I commend you for your concern about all living critters. Sadly, in a lot of underdeveloped countries, people are struggling so hard to stay alive through terrible war and poverty that compassion to animals goes by the wayside. (As someone else noted, however, it isn't just the 3rd world where this is a problem...).
Anyway, my vet volunteers her time for an organization that may be of interest to you. Their website is www.Vets.Amurtel.org. She is going to Northwest Haiti to train local animal health care workers. Apparently there is no veterinary college at all in that area, and obviously it is a rural area where people are very dependent upon their animals.​

 

[silkiechicken]

It's interesting how in pet stores the "feeder" comets are held in tanks, almost dying, and over stuffed looking like a wall of fish and are 15 cents a pop. YET the VERY same fish, the size of large comets, can be found on the regular fish wall for 1.99, and are sold as "pets." Yes they do look healthier, but you ever think they did because they had breathing room and there wasn't thousands of them in about 80 gallons of water? Sometimes it amazes me.

I to do not watch tv.

 

[TransplantedTexan]

I have often thought the same thing Silkiechicken. I find it very odd. As I stated I get about 4-5 dozen at a time, and I constantly have to remind the pet store workers to seperate them into three individual bags. These bags hold maybe a gallon of water. The knuckleheads will try to put all 60 of them in the same gallon bag. They would surely suffocate before I could even get them home.

I find it hypocritical that we scoff at people of other cultures doing what they must to survive. Be it carrying chickens in this manor, most likely the only manor available to them, or eating animals we would call pets. We sit and judge while we munch away on our Bigmacs and KFC.
When I say "we" I mean Americans in general.