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HELP-my goldens are sick!!!

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Thread Starter 

Hi all,

I have 2 goldens (3 1/2 mos) in a pen with 2 silkies (same age & healthy), they get along great. But today I noticed on the one golden, around his right eye was reddish and a little swollen. On the other, his left eye was closed, and around the eye reddished.  I have 20 chickens (all healthy) in the pen next to them separated by the chicken wire.

My questions, are they sick because of the chicken, if so what can I do for them and should I continue to keep them with the silkies?

Thanks for any advice


Edited by njeggvt - 9/6/09 at 3:32pm
post #2 of 12

Maybe the chicken are pecking your pheasants?barnie

have pheasants (goldens, silver, swinhoe, blue back), chickens (silkies, D'Uccle bantams) and ducks (WH, Runners, Silky bantams)
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have pheasants (goldens, silver, swinhoe, blue back), chickens (silkies, D'Uccle bantams) and ducks (WH, Runners, Silky bantams)
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post #3 of 12

The Chickens Have Given Coryza To Your Pheasants--- This Is A Very Common Side Effect From Mixing  Gamebirds With Chickens--- Chickens Are Well Known For Carrying The Disease And Not Sucumbing To It. All The While Your Gamebirds Do Not Have The Immunity To Fight The Disease Off. They Need Antibiotics And Quick Too. Lincomycin Or Penicillin(neither Will Be Easy To Find At A Local Feed Store, As They Usually Carry The Standard Erythromycin Antibiotics) Cutlers Supply Carries Both Type Listed Above And Can Overnight Express Ship, But With It Being Laborday Weekend It Wont Happen Until Tuesday Morning..... If You Are Unable To Obtain Eithe Rof The 2 Preferred I Believe Emycin Would Be Better Than Nothing At All--- And Seperate Them From Your Chickens


Good Luck (i've Been Where You're Going With This-- It Sucked, Sorry)

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I'm Not Yelling!... Thanx Anyway, But Its The Best Way For Me To Read The Print On The Screen.....LF Cochins, SERAMA, RINGNECK AND RUFFED PHEASANTS, MEL. MUTANT RINGNECKS, BLUE SLATE TURKEYS, MALLARDS, WOOD DUCKS, ROUENS, BUTLER BOB WHITES, COTURNIX. PM ME FOR EGG AVAILABILITIES!
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Originally Posted by JJMR794 

The Chickens Have Given Coryza To Your Pheasants--- This Is A Very Common Side Effect From Mixing  Gamebirds With Chickens--- Chickens Are Well Known For Carrying The Disease And Not Sucumbing To It. All The While Your Gamebirds Do Not Have The Immunity To Fight The Disease Off. They Need Antibiotics And Quick Too. Lincomycin Or Penicillin(neither Will Be Easy To Find At A Local Feed Store, As They Usually Carry The Standard Erythromycin Antibiotics) Cutlers Supply Carries Both Type Listed Above And Can Overnight Express Ship, But With It Being Laborday Weekend It Wont Happen Until Tuesday Morning..... If You Are Unable To Obtain Eithe Rof The 2 Preferred I Believe Emycin Would Be Better Than Nothing At All--- And Seperate Them From Your Chickens


Good Luck (i've Been Where You're Going With This-- It Sucked, Sorry)


Just a couple newbie questions.


Is there ANY way that they can overcome this without the use of antibiotics?

How long after introducing them to the chickens will symptoms start to appear?

Once they have been treated, will the disease come back when re-introduced?

Do the pheasants automatically become immune to it?  carriers of it?



Sorry for all the questions, Im new to pheasants (just got a silver pheasant pair), and really want to know the 'what if's.'  lol


Edited by chickenwhisperer123 - 9/6/09 at 7:14pm
post #5 of 12

Hold your horses................everyone! lol

Let's not jump to conclusions just yet. First off, if your chickens are showing no signs of being sick, and your2 pheasants have red eyes, one swollen, perhaps your chickens are pecking at their big eyes. If I put pheasant chicks in with peachicks i get that problem. They love to pick at the pheasants eyes until they are red and irritated.
Do they have any other symptoms besides the eyes.......................a cough, runny nose, rank smell, wheezing?

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My Heart is Broken... I miss you my Sweet Sophie Puff Diva Chicken....
Living and working on a Zoo farm - 300 plus chickens, fancy pigeons, Sebbies geese, turkey, crested ducks, peafowl, ornamental pheasant and ducks, Black swans, Egyptian geese, African Crowned Cranes, Emu, fainting goats, mini zebu, mini horses,mini donkey, alpacas, llamas, horses, 5 Great Pyrenees and a cat.
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Originally Posted by chickenwhisperer123 

Just a couple newbie questions.


Is there ANY way that they can overcome this without the use of antibiotics?

How long after introducing them to the chickens will symptoms start to appear?

Once they have been treated, will the disease come back when re-introduced?

Do the pheasants automatically become immune to it?  carriers of it?



Sorry for all the questions, Im new to pheasants (just got a silver pheasant pair), and really want to know the 'what if's.'  lol


IF IT IS AN INFECTIOUS DISEASE SUCH AS CORYZA --- NO IT WILL KILL THEM IN ALL LIKELYHOOD WITHOUT TREATMENT

IT CAN HAPPEN AT ANY TIME THEY ARE HOUSED TOGATHER. JUST AS IN CHICKENS IT CAN HAPPEN AT ANY TIME, BUT IS USUALLY OCCURING WHEN YOUNGER BIRDS OF MIXED AGES ARE HOUSED TOGATHER IN A CHICKEN FLOCK

ONCE TREATED WILL IT COME BACK? TO BE HONEST I DONT KNOW. THIS IS 1 OF THE PRIMARY REASONS GAMEBIRDS SHOULDNT BE KEPT IN COMMUNITY HOUSING( AND YES I KNOW I'M GONNA TAKE HEAT ON THAT LAST STATEMENT)

DO THEY OR CAN THEY BUILD AN IMMUNITY TO IT? AGAIN I DONT KNOW THE ANSWER TO THIS WITH 100% CERTAINTY, BUT USUALLY IT INFECTS YOUNGER BIRDS-- 2YRS OLD OR LESS, SO IT MAY BE THAT THEY DO OUT GROW IT OR BUILD AN IMMUNITY TO IT WITH AGE AND EXPOSURE.

ALLOW ME TO SAY A COUPLE OF THINGS HERE--- 1. RUNNY NOSE/ SNEEZING IS A VERY LATE SIGN IN GAMEBIRDS

2. JUST BECAUSE THE CHICKENS DO NOT SHOW SIGNS OF ILLNESS DOESNT MEAN THAT THEY ARE NOT THE CARRIER. MOST TIMES IN THESE CASES-- GAMEBIRDS COMING DOWN WITH THIS ILLNESS THE CHICKEN IS A "TYPHOID MARY" AND NEVER EXHIBITS ANY SIGNS OF ILLNESS--- BEFORE OR AFTER INFECTING THE GAMEBIRDS.

I'm Not Yelling!... Thanx Anyway, But Its The Best Way For Me To Read The Print On The Screen.....LF Cochins, SERAMA, RINGNECK AND RUFFED PHEASANTS, MEL. MUTANT RINGNECKS, BLUE SLATE TURKEYS, MALLARDS, WOOD DUCKS, ROUENS, BUTLER BOB WHITES, COTURNIX. PM ME FOR EGG AVAILABILITIES!
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I'm Not Yelling!... Thanx Anyway, But Its The Best Way For Me To Read The Print On The Screen.....LF Cochins, SERAMA, RINGNECK AND RUFFED PHEASANTS, MEL. MUTANT RINGNECKS, BLUE SLATE TURKEYS, MALLARDS, WOOD DUCKS, ROUENS, BUTLER BOB WHITES, COTURNIX. PM ME FOR EGG AVAILABILITIES!
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post #7 of 12
Quote:
Originally Posted by JJMR794 
Quote:
Originally Posted by chickenwhisperer123 

Just a couple newbie questions.


Is there ANY way that they can overcome this without the use of antibiotics?

How long after introducing them to the chickens will symptoms start to appear?

Once they have been treated, will the disease come back when re-introduced?

Do the pheasants automatically become immune to it?  carriers of it?



Sorry for all the questions, Im new to pheasants (just got a silver pheasant pair), and really want to know the 'what if's.'  lol


IF IT IS AN INFECTIOUS DISEASE SUCH AS CORYZA --- NO IT WILL KILL THEM IN ALL LIKELYHOOD WITHOUT TREATMENT

IT CAN HAPPEN AT ANY TIME THEY ARE HOUSED TOGATHER. JUST AS IN CHICKENS IT CAN HAPPEN AT ANY TIME, BUT IS USUALLY OCCURING WHEN YOUNGER BIRDS OF MIXED AGES ARE HOUSED TOGATHER IN A CHICKEN FLOCK

ONCE TREATED WILL IT COME BACK? TO BE HONEST I DONT KNOW. THIS IS 1 OF THE PRIMARY REASONS GAMEBIRDS SHOULDNT BE KEPT IN COMMUNITY HOUSING( AND YES I KNOW I'M GONNA TAKE HEAT ON THAT LAST STATEMENT)

DO THEY OR CAN THEY BUILD AN IMMUNITY TO IT? AGAIN I DONT KNOW THE ANSWER TO THIS WITH 100% CERTAINTY, BUT USUALLY IT INFECTS YOUNGER BIRDS-- 2YRS OLD OR LESS, SO IT MAY BE THAT THEY DO OUT GROW IT OR BUILD AN IMMUNITY TO IT WITH AGE AND EXPOSURE.

ALLOW ME TO SAY A COUPLE OF THINGS HERE--- 1. RUNNY NOSE/ SNEEZING IS A VERY LATE SIGN IN GAMEBIRDS

2. JUST BECAUSE THE CHICKENS DO NOT SHOW SIGNS OF ILLNESS DOESNT MEAN THAT THEY ARE NOT THE CARRIER. MOST TIMES IN THESE CASES-- GAMEBIRDS COMING DOWN WITH THIS ILLNESS THE CHICKEN IS A "TYPHOID MARY" AND NEVER EXHIBITS ANY SIGNS OF ILLNESS--- BEFORE OR AFTER INFECTING THE GAMEBIRDS.


Thanks!!

post #8 of 12

Both could be right.  If you chose not to act quickly and follow JJMR's advice though, you increase the chance of losing your birds expotentially.  That is one of the risks of community housing.

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post #9 of 12

Thanx Kikes! That Was The Point...

I'm Not Yelling!... Thanx Anyway, But Its The Best Way For Me To Read The Print On The Screen.....LF Cochins, SERAMA, RINGNECK AND RUFFED PHEASANTS, MEL. MUTANT RINGNECKS, BLUE SLATE TURKEYS, MALLARDS, WOOD DUCKS, ROUENS, BUTLER BOB WHITES, COTURNIX. PM ME FOR EGG AVAILABILITIES!
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I'm Not Yelling!... Thanx Anyway, But Its The Best Way For Me To Read The Print On The Screen.....LF Cochins, SERAMA, RINGNECK AND RUFFED PHEASANTS, MEL. MUTANT RINGNECKS, BLUE SLATE TURKEYS, MALLARDS, WOOD DUCKS, ROUENS, BUTLER BOB WHITES, COTURNIX. PM ME FOR EGG AVAILABILITIES!
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post #10 of 12
Thread Starter 

Thanks for all the advice, I separated them this morning and will get meds tomorrow.

They are not sneezing or coughing but are definitely "not well". There is also a "unpleasant smell" around their head/eyes.

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