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Danz so will the turkeys drown during the 3 day lock down humidity up to 50% for the chicks to hatch? Or will they be ok?
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@Dani4Hedgies, Hechicken mentioned the hatching time for turkeys. I do have one thing to add though. Turkeys need lower humidity to hatch. They drown in the egg if it is too high. I normally don't increase the humidity for turkeys at all when they are due to hatch. I've had some hatch with chicken chicks but they seem to do much better at a lower humidity rate.

Funny you mention that.  I have always hatched turkeys exactly the same as chicken chicks and never had an issue.  Years ago that used to mean incubating at 45% and raising to 65% at hatch.  I honestly never had any issues with turkeys hatching at that humidity so a lot may depend on individual incubator and environment.

 

Having said that, one time I set a batch of eggs and totally forgot about them.  I woke one morning to hear peeping.  I had never increased humidity or turned off the turner, yet a bunch of chicks had hatched just fine anyway.  I figured if they can hatch at the lower humidity, why bother raising it?  Since then I haven't raised humidity at hatch time for either chicks or turkeys.  I incubate and hatch at 45% and get close to 100% hatch rates from my own eggs.  The only thing I do in preparation for hatch is to turn off the turner, and put a towel under the eggs.  The latter is because the floor of my incubator is slick enough that occasionally a newly hatched baby will get splay legged.  Giving them a towel allows them to get a purchase while they are learning to walk and I haven't had any further splay legged issues since I started doing that.

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Read about my fox attack here

A fox attack survival story

My hoop house

Should I add supplemental heat?

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I'm sorry chicklover about your hen, it's hard to lose special ones.

 

I ended up hatching 9 little Silverudd's Blue (Isbars), which I think for shipped eggs is pretty good. Oh & Danz all of the chicks are now on their feet walking around. The two that were flipping have stopped so whatever their problem was resolved itself. I was really beginning to wonder if the last one, a splash, was going to be able to walk. I put all of the chicks in the brooder last night before going to bed & it was still laying on it's back. I looked in on them a few minutes ago & they're all walking now. I do have the special formula in the water for these. I have always heard anyway that Isbars need extra vitamins for awhile so they have them in the waterer. I have a mixture of black, blue, & splash in my group of now 13 so I should be able hopefully to get a nice breeding group from them. I found out also that Silverudd, who developed the breed was a monk & he died before finishing his project with them. He never got to the barring part, thus the name Isbars, so that's why they have been re-named after him. Also, I guess he intended them to be blue, but as with any blue genetics you get all 3 varieties. That's just some interesting info I found & had to share. 

I raise Self Blue & Wheaten Ameraucanas, Crested Cream Legbars, Speckled Sussex, English Lavender & Buff Orpingtons, Heritage Barred Rocks, Mille Fleur Bantam Cochins, English Jubilee & Partridge Orpingtons, Silver Penciled Rocks, Mille Fleur Leghorns, BLRW, Silverudd's Blue & Rhodebars I also have several colors of Guineas, Ancona Ducks, & Sebastapol Geese. NPIP KS-413
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I raise Self Blue & Wheaten Ameraucanas, Crested Cream Legbars, Speckled Sussex, English Lavender & Buff Orpingtons, Heritage Barred Rocks, Mille Fleur Bantam Cochins, English Jubilee & Partridge Orpingtons, Silver Penciled Rocks, Mille Fleur Leghorns, BLRW, Silverudd's Blue & Rhodebars I also have several colors of Guineas, Ancona Ducks, & Sebastapol Geese. NPIP KS-413
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Trish,
That's awesome what a great hatch way to go!!!#
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Omg I just saw the funniest thing ever in my coop, Henning my Hen Turkey was in her perferred egg laying spot when I happened to look closer and under her almost completely covered but for her bright orange red brown tail is my year old Easter Egger named Phoenix. Now I don't know if Henning just had to lay an egg right now and didn't care that Phoenix was there if she thought Phoenix was cold or thought she was a baby turkey but OMG was it funny to see. And when I raised Henning wing to check on Phoenix, Phoenix acted like a chick and peeked up at me through her wing and then Henning closed it back around her.
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Danz so will the turkeys drown during the 3 day lock down humidity up to 50% for the chicks to hatch? Or will they be ok?


No they won't, but I never hatch at over 40% if I can help it.

HEChicken I hatch at lower humidities all the time. Never over 40% for chickens or turkeys. You get better hatches and less sticky chicks that way.  I used to hatch at much higher levels that I had read about and my hatch rate was considerably lower. Now with fertile eggs I get pretty much a 100% hatch. This varies however if I have different breeds in the incubator. The small breeds tend to hatch much earlier and a couple of the larger breeds hatch on day 22. I have a continuous hatch going all the time with eggs at different stages. Keeping the humidity higher made the chicks grow too large for their shells and thus they didn't hatch as well. I'm sure it makes a difference with staggered hatches and such but even those rare times when all the birds are due at once they do better at lower rates. The amount of air flow makes a difference as well. I've found that out using more than one kind of incubator.

Dani has an old metal incubator and those things are a whole 'nother ball game. I had one for a while that I gave away but there is really not a good way to keep humidity constant or keep temperature level all over.

100s of birds and zero spare time!  Imported and exhibition Brahmas: partridge-gold and blue gold, black, blue laced gold/ my specific breeding, & BBS; Speckled Sussex; 100% English Orpingtons,lavender,jubilee,BBS,gold laced, partridge and blue gold partridge; mottled and blue mottled. Rare Breda Fowl, true Araucana; Icelandics,Cayuga, Mandarin ducks;Guineas;Midget white turkey; Sabastopol...
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HEChicken I hatch at lower humidities all the time. Never over 40% for chickens or turkeys. You get better hatches and less sticky chicks that way.  

Like I said, I think it varies for everyone according to the incubator and environment.  I tried incubating at lower humidities but finally settled on 45% because that is the point I get no sticky chicks and consistently get almost 100% hatch rates.  And I used to hatch at higher humidity but found the chicks and poults I hatch at 45% have almost no issues after hatch either.  So 45% is what works for me.  But when I used to spend a lot of time on the hatching section of BYC, I found there is a great range of what people say works for them.  One person will insist on certain temp/humidity and inevitably someone will come along and tell them they're doing it all wrong and need totally different conditions.  In the end, I think we all just have to figure out what works for us in our own environment and our own particular incubator.  It takes some trial and error to figure that out.

Enjoying my 10-acres in the country with 100+ chickens and turkeys!  Blog is here.

 

Read about my fox attack here

A fox attack survival story

My hoop house

Should I add supplemental heat?

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Enjoying my 10-acres in the country with 100+ chickens and turkeys!  Blog is here.

 

Read about my fox attack here

A fox attack survival story

My hoop house

Should I add supplemental heat?

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I agree HEChicken I think there are too many variables with equipment & environment to say that things have to be a certain way. You will see people getting angry & arguing over the subject, but you're right, you need to find what works for you & your situation & go with that. I incubate at about 50% here & it works fine for me & I also hatch around that as well, but like Danz I have a separate hatcher from the incubator since I always have different stages of eggs in the incubator during hatching season & I would rather not make the mess with hatching in there. My matching hatcher has hatching trays that are easy to clean out & I use a rubber shelf liner in the tray too to avoid leg problems. It's the kind with little bumpy things on it so they can grip & not slip around. Those are easy to take out & empty shell fragments into the trash & wash with soap & water between hatches. 

 

I have succumbed to the crud that is going around, ugh. This one goes right to your lungs so coughing is involved, especially at night. 

I raise Self Blue & Wheaten Ameraucanas, Crested Cream Legbars, Speckled Sussex, English Lavender & Buff Orpingtons, Heritage Barred Rocks, Mille Fleur Bantam Cochins, English Jubilee & Partridge Orpingtons, Silver Penciled Rocks, Mille Fleur Leghorns, BLRW, Silverudd's Blue & Rhodebars I also have several colors of Guineas, Ancona Ducks, & Sebastapol Geese. NPIP KS-413
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I raise Self Blue & Wheaten Ameraucanas, Crested Cream Legbars, Speckled Sussex, English Lavender & Buff Orpingtons, Heritage Barred Rocks, Mille Fleur Bantam Cochins, English Jubilee & Partridge Orpingtons, Silver Penciled Rocks, Mille Fleur Leghorns, BLRW, Silverudd's Blue & Rhodebars I also have several colors of Guineas, Ancona Ducks, & Sebastapol Geese. NPIP KS-413
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I've been working out of the state in Oklahoma for the last couple months, so I haven't even had time to check my threads. Now, I'm going to be moving and have to get rid of my rooster. Can anyone identify this breed for me? He's the white one and he's about nine months old. Are used to know what breed he was, just forgot in all the confusion of my crazy life these days. I appreciate your help and if anybody wants a free rooster in the Wichita area, let me know. [IMG][IMG]
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I agree HEChicken I think there are too many variables with equipment & environment to say that things have to be a certain way. You will see people getting angry & arguing over the subject, but you're right, you need to find what works for you & your situation & go with that. I incubate at about 50% here & it works fine for me & I also hatch around that as well, but like Danz I have a separate hatcher from the incubator since I always have different stages of eggs in the incubator during hatching season & I would rather not make the mess with hatching in there. My matching hatcher has hatching trays that are easy to clean out & I use a rubber shelf liner in the tray too to avoid leg problems. It's the kind with little bumpy things on it so they can grip & not slip around. Those are easy to take out & empty shell fragments into the trash & wash with soap & water between hatches. 

 

I have succumbed to the crud that is going around, ugh. This one goes right to your lungs so coughing is involved, especially at night. 

I've not been using my hatcher the past year.  Reason being, I hatch too many different types of poultry at once which requires a huge swing in humidity requirements, so it's easier to hatch in the combination incubators. I hope to get organized enough to sell my hatcher and one of my incubators this spring so I can buy another one that accommodates hatching. I incubate and hatch my geese and ducks in one incubator and other birds in another couple of them. Because the goose eggs take so much room I normally incubate them in the Professional which has no hatching area and then move them to a dual unit for the last week or so and to hatch.

Sorry you're sick Trish.  

I just take my hatching trays out and rinse them with Tek Trol ever so often. I use the rubber shelf liner as well to prevent splayed legs. I  tek-trol them as well, rinse them out and put them back in damp cause it just aids the humidity some and saves some time. My older GQF units have an aluminum tray that goes on the bottom to keep it cleaner but it is too slick for the chicks as well. It does save some mess though and is easily cleaned. I do wish they made a hatching basket now like they used to that was made of 1/4" x 3/4" welded wire instead of the plastic treated cardboard they have now. So much cleaner and easier to maintain. Of course I suppose I could make more of them, but that is another project.  

 

Originally Posted by JiltdRoyalty View Post

I've been working out of the state in Oklahoma for the last couple months, so I haven't even had time to check my threads. Now, I'm going to be moving and have to get rid of my rooster. Can anyone identify this breed for me? He's the white one and he's about nine months old. Are used to know what breed he was, just forgot in all the confusion of my crazy life these days. I appreciate your help and if anybody wants a free rooster in the Wichita area, let me know. [IMG][IMG]

He is a white cochin and looks like a nice one at that. Good luck on your move.

I'm really unhappy that this weather is going to be so awful this week. We have a get together scheduled with my sons and their families next Sunday. With snow on Saturday and really cold temps it doesn't look like very good day to get together. I'm not at all prepared for Christmas for sure. I am clueless about gifts. And obviously am running out of time.

I did get the tree to the house yesterday but it's still sitting in the box in the hallway. I'm not all that anxious to put it up cause I won't be having Christmas company.

I did skip the tree one year and it just didn't seem like Christmas at all around here.

100s of birds and zero spare time!  Imported and exhibition Brahmas: partridge-gold and blue gold, black, blue laced gold/ my specific breeding, & BBS; Speckled Sussex; 100% English Orpingtons,lavender,jubilee,BBS,gold laced, partridge and blue gold partridge; mottled and blue mottled. Rare Breda Fowl, true Araucana; Icelandics,Cayuga, Mandarin ducks;Guineas;Midget white turkey; Sabastopol...
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100s of birds and zero spare time!  Imported and exhibition Brahmas: partridge-gold and blue gold, black, blue laced gold/ my specific breeding, & BBS; Speckled Sussex; 100% English Orpingtons,lavender,jubilee,BBS,gold laced, partridge and blue gold partridge; mottled and blue mottled. Rare Breda Fowl, true Araucana; Icelandics,Cayuga, Mandarin ducks;Guineas;Midget white turkey; Sabastopol...
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