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post #12071 of 18339
4/16/12 at 1:05pm

Thanks for doing the research for me.  As heartbreaking as it is, the cost of these chicks is lower than the cost of vaccinations and miracle measures.  I think we're just going to cull all 8 tonight, since trash day is tomorrow, and we can send away all bedding with them. 

 

I wonder if I need to start giving all the others Sulmet now, or wait to see symptoms.

Chickens: faverolles, australorps, Delaware, barred rock, welsummer, silver laced wyandotte, lavender and buff x wheaten ameraucanas, BLRW, blue and splash andalusian, cochin, exchequer leghorn, silkie, brabanter, minorca, turken, RIR, brahma, speckled sussex...Ducks: two welsh harlequins, two blue swedish...  Two dogs, a snake, two parents and two kids... and food gardens everywhere else. 

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Chickens: faverolles, australorps, Delaware, barred rock, welsummer, silver laced wyandotte, lavender and buff x wheaten ameraucanas, BLRW, blue and splash andalusian, cochin, exchequer leghorn, silkie, brabanter, minorca, turken, RIR, brahma, speckled sussex...Ducks: two welsh harlequins, two blue swedish...  Two dogs, a snake, two parents and two kids... and food gardens everywhere else. 

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post #12072 of 18339
4/16/12 at 1:11pm

This is a huge nightmare Missy, it's killing me watching you go through this. It does sound more like Coryza to me.

 

Oh wow, potluck sounds good to me and since Sunny needs to know what people are bringing so she can tell us what she's bringing then I'm going to step up with Lasagna if that's okay with everyone? 2pm is a lot better for me as well because I'm planting away right now in my garden and this will help me get stuff done as well.

Happily Married for 32 years. 3 FBCM (Alberto, Bridgette & Maybelline), BLRW (Lacey), LA (Amanda), Orpington/Delaware (Bella), CM (Monique). RIP Wynonna - 3/23/11-3/25/12, Little Guy (LG) - 4/28/-5/6/12, Harmony - 3/17-9/7/12, Leroy - 3/7/12-4/14/13

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Happily Married for 32 years. 3 FBCM (Alberto, Bridgette & Maybelline), BLRW (Lacey), LA (Amanda), Orpington/Delaware (Bella), CM (Monique). RIP Wynonna - 3/23/11-3/25/12, Little Guy (LG) - 4/28/-5/6/12, Harmony - 3/17-9/7/12, Leroy - 3/7/12-4/14/13

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post #12073 of 18339
4/16/12 at 1:12pm
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Thanks for doing the research for me.  As heartbreaking as it is, the cost of these chicks is lower than the cost of vaccinations and miracle measures.  I think we're just going to cull all 8 tonight, since trash day is tomorrow, and we can send away all bedding with them. 

 

I wonder if I need to start giving all the others Sulmet now, or wait to see symptoms.

hit.gifso hard.  In reading some BYC threads, it looks like you can give the young chicks sulmet in the water but you might want to hold off a bit. especially since you've had them completely separate and have been careful about not contaminating. 
 

 

Elizabeth

3 Black Australorps, 1 Welsummer, 3  EEs, 2 Buff Orpingtons, 1 Barred Rock, 6 Ameraucana (2 Lavender, 1 Blue Wheaten, 1 Buff X Wheaten, and 2 Black/Lav split), 2 Blue Laced Red Wyandottes , and 1 Golden Cuckoo Marans, 3 Norwegian Jaerhon, 3 blue silkies, 1 speckled sussex, 1 blue cochin, 1 dark brahma

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Elizabeth

3 Black Australorps, 1 Welsummer, 3  EEs, 2 Buff Orpingtons, 1 Barred Rock, 6 Ameraucana (2 Lavender, 1 Blue Wheaten, 1 Buff X Wheaten, and 2 Black/Lav split), 2 Blue Laced Red Wyandottes , and 1 Golden Cuckoo Marans, 3 Norwegian Jaerhon, 3 blue silkies, 1 speckled sussex, 1 blue cochin, 1 dark brahma

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post #12074 of 18339
4/16/12 at 2:14pm
I have given sulmet to young peeps before for coccidiosis...saved all but he one showing bloody stools, so I'd say I worked well for them.
Good luck

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post #12075 of 18339
4/16/12 at 4:26pm

Missy, I am so sorry! 

 

I read that for upper respiratory disease, Denagard is the best treatment and preventative. It has no withdrawal period, so you can eat the eggs when treating your layers. You can buy it at QC supply. It is pricey but dilutes (one capfull per gallon of water) but goes a long way. My brother raises meat birds and they are notorious for having CRD (chronic respiratory disease) so I did some research for him on the subject. It does work :) 

 

Denagard has a website. www.tiamutin.com/vet-poultry/diseaseproblems/en/index.shtml 
 

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Thanks for doing the research for me.  As heartbreaking as it is, the cost of these chicks is lower than the cost of vaccinations and miracle measures.  I think we're just going to cull all 8 tonight, since trash day is tomorrow, and we can send away all bedding with them. 

 

I wonder if I need to start giving all the others Sulmet now, or wait to see symptoms.



 


Edited by chickee - 4/16/12 at 4:38pm

Bantam Blue Laced Red Wyandottes, Bantam buff laced Polish, Bantam buff Brahmas, Porcelain d'Anvers, EEs and W/BW Ameraucanas.

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Bantam Blue Laced Red Wyandottes, Bantam buff laced Polish, Bantam buff Brahmas, Porcelain d'Anvers, EEs and W/BW Ameraucanas.

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post #12076 of 18339
4/16/12 at 4:59pm
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OK so after reading up on this disease, realizing how huge a problem it is in backyard flocks and how easy it can be spread (can travel in the wind from flock to flock and on the feet of mice etc.), I have decided to order the vaccine that Elizabeth linked in her post.  Prevention seems to be the key to controlling it.  I figure if a few people want to share this medicine with me it will be much cheaper.  It only comes to $10 per 100 doses after overnight shipping costs, however new stock will not arrive at the company til the 18th.  The vaccine can be given at 3 weeks of age and is very effective when given early.

 

The problem with Coryza, as Missy mentioned, is that once a bird gets it, it is then a carrier for life.  Unlike other respiratory illnesses in chickens this one has a 50% mortality rate with a 100% morbidity rate.  This is far worse than any other respiratory illness that plagues chickens.  The recommendation is to put down any infected birds.  Unfortunately even if they survive their egg laying capabilities are rarely the same.  Eggs are fewer and misshapen.

 

I've already ordered it and even if no one else wants to share the expense with me it is well worth the piece of mind it will give me.  As a breeder I cannot afford to take a risk with my birds.  Already I have many 100s of dollars invested in my flock.  In the marans pen alone an infection would cost me a fortune! 

 

I want to keep at least 200 doses for myself and Missy wants 100 so that only leaves enough for 7 more folks to share this with us (one bottle contain 1,000 doses).  It needs to be local folks since this has to be refrigerated upon arrival and overnight shipping with a cool pack would be too expensive for small doses.  Speak quickly if you want in.  First come first served. 

 

This vaccine is made specifically for Coryza.  It is not a catch-all vaccine for other illnesses.

 


Edited by SunnyDawn - 4/16/12 at 5:05pm

Don't miss the new Nevada thread pages here!  These pages are in their infancy so don't hesitate to send me suggestions for additions or improvements.  Just be kind... I'm old and technologically challenged.     LOL

 

All things Nevada.

 

New Nevada recipe pages here.

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Don't miss the new Nevada thread pages here!  These pages are in their infancy so don't hesitate to send me suggestions for additions or improvements.  Just be kind... I'm old and technologically challenged.     LOL

 

All things Nevada.

 

New Nevada recipe pages here.

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post #12077 of 18339
4/16/12 at 5:14pm

100 doses = cost of one bird I have to cull tonight. 

Chickens: faverolles, australorps, Delaware, barred rock, welsummer, silver laced wyandotte, lavender and buff x wheaten ameraucanas, BLRW, blue and splash andalusian, cochin, exchequer leghorn, silkie, brabanter, minorca, turken, RIR, brahma, speckled sussex...Ducks: two welsh harlequins, two blue swedish...  Two dogs, a snake, two parents and two kids... and food gardens everywhere else. 

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Chickens: faverolles, australorps, Delaware, barred rock, welsummer, silver laced wyandotte, lavender and buff x wheaten ameraucanas, BLRW, blue and splash andalusian, cochin, exchequer leghorn, silkie, brabanter, minorca, turken, RIR, brahma, speckled sussex...Ducks: two welsh harlequins, two blue swedish...  Two dogs, a snake, two parents and two kids... and food gardens everywhere else. 

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post #12078 of 18339
4/16/12 at 5:35pm
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Originally Posted by americanvalkyrie View Post

100 doses = cost of one bird I have to cull tonight. 


sad.png     That is so sad Missy!!!
 

 

Don't miss the new Nevada thread pages here!  These pages are in their infancy so don't hesitate to send me suggestions for additions or improvements.  Just be kind... I'm old and technologically challenged.     LOL

 

All things Nevada.

 

New Nevada recipe pages here.

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Don't miss the new Nevada thread pages here!  These pages are in their infancy so don't hesitate to send me suggestions for additions or improvements.  Just be kind... I'm old and technologically challenged.     LOL

 

All things Nevada.

 

New Nevada recipe pages here.

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post #12079 of 18339
4/16/12 at 5:55pm

Missy if you need to talk just give me pm. I'm pretty free tomorrow and I'd be happy to come see you.

 

 

OK, by no means am I trying to downplay the seriousness of all of this but I'm already having a stressed out week. So I'm going to change the subject for a bit.

 

Today I got my orchard planted, the trees are only a couple years old so it will be a few more years before they fruit, but I'm still excited. I planted 3 peach (Elberta, Hale-Haven), 3 apple (Lodi, Red Johnathan, and Early Harvest), 2 pear (Bartlett, Orient). I also have everbearing raspberries, and Arapaho blackberries to plant. I still need to make my new chicken nipple waterer, and I have to design some different nest boxes for my girls. Some days all I cann think about is how much I still need to do, but days like today I think "wow this place is finally starting to shape up". Of course maybe thats because I wound up with conjunctivitis in my left eye and I can hardly see LOL.

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post #12080 of 18339
4/16/12 at 7:48pm

What a great job you did Mandy! I love Elberta peaches. I grew them in California for canning. I would love to buy some from you when you can sell them. Just let me know.

Happily Married for 32 years. 3 FBCM (Alberto, Bridgette & Maybelline), BLRW (Lacey), LA (Amanda), Orpington/Delaware (Bella), CM (Monique). RIP Wynonna - 3/23/11-3/25/12, Little Guy (LG) - 4/28/-5/6/12, Harmony - 3/17-9/7/12, Leroy - 3/7/12-4/14/13

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Happily Married for 32 years. 3 FBCM (Alberto, Bridgette & Maybelline), BLRW (Lacey), LA (Amanda), Orpington/Delaware (Bella), CM (Monique). RIP Wynonna - 3/23/11-3/25/12, Little Guy (LG) - 4/28/-5/6/12, Harmony - 3/17-9/7/12, Leroy - 3/7/12-4/14/13

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