I have seen it....or I have seen the big winner over there which happens to be buff. I like it, it is a pretty bird, but it is not our kind of Orp. Since they had them first and it is an English breed I would normally defer to the country of origin, but if you read their Standard it does not match these birds. Their Standard does call for a small head and to me that just looks funny on such a large bird. They clearly state however that the plumage should not be like a Cochin and you still have to see the legs. I would guess that those birds have some problems mating naturally.