The EE braggers thread!!! - Page 608

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Originally Posted by j and bs hens 

This might be covered somewhere in the 606 other pages, and this might be a bit of an obvious question..... But, to have an EE you have to breed an americauna or auricana with another breed. What are the guidelines for this? And could I breed my EE with a pure americauna roo?? Or, would that result in the double gene that would cause the fertilized eggs to die? Sorry, just trying to figure it all out! Thanks.

 An EE is either a mixed chicken w/ blue laying ansestory, or and Ameracauna that doesn't meat SOP guidlines.  EE or Ameraucanas do not have any fatal gene problems, the arucana w/ the tufts is what your thinking I believe, if you breed both tufted parents then there is a % of fatal genes in the offspring.  There is no problem EE x Ameracuana.

Oh boy !  That is so sad and frustrating.  Here is my advice first make sure that you let them know that you will be posting bad reviews everywhere you can.  Second find out where you can contact the regional post master general if there is a local PO person in charge.  You can even send e-mails as they probably do not open mail any longer since the PATHOGENS  were mailed to PO and federal senators.

And of course with any other chicks that you order make sure you have a picture  of the dead birds within the post office with the PO person and the another person as well.

I have seen the above adviso written by a large hatchery that will refund when they arrive dead but they cautioned to bring a camera to the post office with you when you open the box.
 

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Originally Posted by Kassaundra 

 Besides dead?  The hatchery requires the PO to verify they arrived dead, Gary opened the box at the PO, but the lady is saying he didn't open it there, so she won't confirm they were dead at the PO.  It is a small PO, not many employees that work on Sat morning so not sure what's going on there.  Without the postlady's statement, even w/ pics of the dead chicks in the box they won't replace them, at least that is where it stands now.

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Originally Posted by j and bs hens 

This might be covered somewhere in the 606 other pages, and this might be a bit of an obvious question..... But, to have an EE you have to breed an americauna or auricana with another breed. What are the guidelines for this? And could I breed my EE with a pure americauna roo?? Or, would that result in the double gene that would cause the fertilized eggs to die? Sorry, just trying to figure it all out! Thanks.

Easter Eggers, most of them, aren't "created" through cross-breeding anymore actually. Reading your signature I'm guessing and likely right that your, what you believe to be Ameraucanas, are actually Easter Eggers. You can get them from hatcheries or feedstores sold as Araucanas or Ameraucanas, but, they're Easter Eggers. They are indeed the product of crossbreeding, but it was done decades ago.

You still can, though, use Ameraucanas or Araucanas or even just EE x EE to make more EE's, but chances of finding real purebred Ameraucanas or Araucanas is unlikely and rare. You don't need to worry about lethal genes though. Only using purebred, true tufted Araucana x another tufted Araucana will cause a 25% of mortality before the chicks are born, but that's it. You'd need to have the luck of two purebred tufted (not muffed or bearded) birds to have that happen.

You can breed an EE with an Ameraucana, yes, but I'm going to guess that your rooster is already an EE anyway. But if you're curious on breeding him to a non-EE, perfectly fine. You'll still have EE offspring.

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Originally Posted by Kassaundra 

 

 An EE is either a mixed chicken w/ blue laying ansestory, or and Ameracauna that doesn't meat SOP guidlines.  EE or Ameraucanas do not have any fatal gene problems, the arucana w/ the tufts is what your thinking I believe, if you breed both tufted parents then there is a % of fatal genes in the offspring.  There is no problem EE x Ameracuana.

That's the best definition I have heard!   excellent.  (I was going to say eggcellent)

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Originally Posted by flower 

Oh boy !  That is so sad and frustrating.  Here is my advice first make sure that you let them know that you will be posting bad reviews everywhere you can.  Second find out where you can contact the regional post master general if there is a local PO person in charge.  You can even send e-mails as they probably do not open mail any longer since the PATHOGENS  were mailed to PO and federal senators.

 

And of course with any other chicks that you order make sure you have a picture  of the dead birds within the post office with the PO person and the another person as well.

 

I have seen the above adviso written by a large hatchery that will refund when they arrive dead but they cautioned to bring a camera to the post office with you when you open the box.
 

 

Oh trust me they KNOW.  I post often on the Okie thread and it has been an ongoing subject of posts for the past couple of months, my planning to get them searching for a place to get them, getting the colors I wanted etc....  Then the posts of getting the dead ones trying to save a couple that were still alive and then dealing w/ the hatchery, anyway after I started posting about my ordeals the very protective and loyal BYC Okies started e-mailing them, to the point the man called me to request they stop (he viewed the e-mails as aggressive, I don't know as he never read me any)  We are still at the postoffice lady impass, he wants them to say they were dead and the lady insists Gary didn't open them there, Gary insists he did.  But I may have got to the bottom of that, he may have opened it in front of one of the female rural route carriers that was passing through at the time he picked them up, that is the only thing I can think of anyway.
 

Tomorrow is butcher day, so I thought I'd share some pics of the group before it's reduced. All of the boys are going to be butchered(unless by some miracle I find homes for my bantams). I sure do hope Sleepy's not hiding a dirty little secret about, and really is a girl. 

The 8 week olds L to R are; Yolanda(pullet), Ginger(cockerel), Babs(cockerel), Betty(cockerel), Bunty(cockerel), Whitney(pullet), and of course Sleepy, the only one not on the roost. The other two are 4 week olds.

Sleepy looking skyward and Whitney's back.

Closer pic of Betty the EE cockerel.

And one of Babs, I think he's a something laced red wyandotte, of the two LF boys I'm probly going to miss Babs more. He follows me around the yard.

Those are pretty young for butchering, at least, around here they would be. I wait at least 5 months. You sure Sleepy and Whitney are boys? With so much back exposure in that photo I don't see any saddle feathers at all.

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Originally Posted by Illia 

Those are pretty young for butchering, at least, around here they would be. I wait at least 5 months. You sure Sleepy and Whitney are boys? With so much back exposure in that photo I don't see any saddle feathers at all.

x2 why the rush?  I would hate to process a pullet by mistake.

This is one of my EEs, Caramel. I got her from a friend that was moving into non-chicken-friendly housing, so I have no idea on her parentage. (I assumed she was a hatchery bird.) Caramel doesn't have the standard muff & beard; it almost seems like she might have something more like Araucana ear tufts, although not as pronounced.

I tried so hard to get her to look at me head-on yesterday, but  she was much more interested in the sunflower seeds I'd scattered. What do you think - could she have some Araucana in her?

I don't know, but she's a cool chicken...    Thanks for looking!

She's pretty!