The EE braggers thread!!! - Page 625

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Originally Posted by marlo1968 

Just curious but what color would the Ameraucanas foot sole color be, as well as leg color?  I have one pullet whose sole color is like a neon yellowish greenish color....the leg is black.  She used to have black legs all the way down to the middle of her toes (on top) then the end of her toes were yellow.  Now she is 6 and a half weeks old and the tops of her toes have gone all black, but the bottoms of her feet as I said above, finding this strange.

The soles of Ameraucanas are white (not yellow) and legs are slate (grey) not willow (green)

Kassaundra did you decide how many NN pullets that you have ? And do you think that eventually you will mix some of them with your EEs ?  There is a small bunch of us who crave NN/EE who lay blue colored eggs and I want to know if you will be in the club?

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Originally Posted by flower 

Kassaundra did you decide how many NN pullets that you have ? And do you think that eventually you will mix some of them with your EEs ?  There is a small bunch of us who crave NN/EE who lay blue colored eggs and I want to know if you will be in the club?

I still have no clue who is female or male      I am going to take new pics either tomorrow or Sunday, I'll try and post them see if their are any futher guesses.

I do plan on intermixing my two flocks.  One will have Oreo as the roo w/ EE and NN girls, I have not hatched any of the eggs Oreo sired yet, but he has an awesome pea comb so suspect he has colored egg laying in his genetic.  So any NN girls in his pen should have a good chance of green egg laying offspring.  Also Shakespear (if he is a he) will be the roo of the other flock and the EE ladies in his flock all lay green eggs.  Not sure what the NN x spitz lay but one or two will go in each flock too.  It is my understanding NN's lay brown eggs, if that is the case you could only get green, not blue eggs, right?

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Originally Posted by Kassaundra 

The soles of Ameraucanas are white (not yellow) and legs are slate (grey) not willow (green)

oh, okay, thanks

The NN do lay brown eggs but it is not a dark color and yes brown over blue shell makes different shades of green. And the shades change as each bird goes through its cycle. At this time I can tell who lays each egg but as I have more mixes I might not be able to do that. I am pretty sure that Spitzenhavn lay a good size white egg so with blue added the egg could remain blue. One of my aims is to have as many colors as 

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Originally Posted by flower 

The NN do lay brown eggs but it is not a dark color and yes brown over blue shell makes different shades of green. And the shades change as each bird goes through its cycle. At this time I can tell who lays each egg but as I have more mixes I might not be able to do that. I am pretty sure that Spitzenhavn lay a good size white egg so with blue added the egg could remain blue. One of my aims is to have as many colors as 

   Gotta LOVE  a colorful chicken yard and egg basket!!!!!

I have a quick question and don't know where to ask it.  This cockeral is 10 weeks old (gotten from the EE bin at my local TSC) and STILL has not grown tailfeathers although he has a tailbone.  All of his hatchmates were fully feathered at week 5, but he is just now finishing feathering out. Do true tailess birds have a tailbone?  He also has a massive beard and muffs.  I have heard of a double gene for muffs, is this true?  Is there a triple gene for it?  Are the genes for muffs like this linked in any way to slow feather growth?  Just would like some general information on the genetics behind muffs/beards/tails/feathergrowth...  I really didn't expect to get a tailess from hatchery quality EEs.  I thought the tailess gene was Araucana, while muffs were Ameraucana?

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Originally Posted by Panth 

I have a quick question and don't know where to ask it.  This cockeral is 10 weeks old (gotten from the EE bin at my local TSC) and STILL has not grown tailfeathers although he has a tailbone.  All of his hatchmates were fully feathered at week 5, but he is just now finishing feathering out. Do true tailess birds have a tailbone?  He also has a massive beard and muffs.  I have heard of a double gene for muffs, is this true?  Is there a triple gene for it?  Are the genes for muffs like this linked in any way to slow feather growth?  Just would like some general information on the genetics behind muffs/beards/tails/feathergrowth...  I really didn't expect to get a tailess from hatchery quality EEs.  I thought the tailess gene was Araucana, while muffs were Ameraucana?

That is one of the reasons there is no breed standard for EEs coming from hatcheries- I have one EE that lays a lovely olive egg that has no beard or muffs.  The one hen that I have with this same coloring lays a pinkish egg, but she has muffs. No idea if your cockerel will grow tail feathers or not- you'll have to keep us posted. It could be he's got mixed genes and the hatchery was just breeding for the blue/green egg between the two breeds.

Trust me, that chick is not rumpless.

Rumplessness is rarely to never found in hatchery EE's, and is indeed an Araucana thing, while beard/muffs are indeed an Ameraucana thing. The EE's from hatcheries were from the same stock today's Ameraucanas root from though, however one was bred for specific traits, the other just as is, a mixed lot.

Anyway - A rumpless chick by now would have an obvious nice curving slope of a rear; I've had an EE who was just like yours though, it was a boy, and for the longest time I thought it was rumpless, then one day developed a small tail that pointed straight down, and as he grew older, it got more erect and upright, and, once mature, he had a normal tail like any common EE. That chick of yours though, wow, BIG beard/muffs!

As for muffs/beard, no such thing as triple genes. All traits are carried with two alleles, two copies, really. Muffs/beard are a dominant trait, so, even if a bird has only one copy you'll still see them. If he has both copies the beard/muffs will indeed be more full in shape, but, not that much more different, the main difference is that both copies will allow it to breed true, in other words, you won't get unwanted random clean faced or small bearded chicks down the road. Only one copy and that can happen though.

Tufts are different in that even though they too are dominant, you can only have one copy. Two copies, and you've got a dead bird before birth. And like with muffs/beard though - No copies, and you've got a clean-faced bird.

I think your chick has a really big beard/muffs for a separate reason than having one or two copies of beard/muffs genes, although I gotta say it is very likely he has both copies. (aka Homozygous)

Yaaa, I'm so glad you responded to this Illia, I was crossing my fingers that you would .  I didn't figure he was really rumpless, but I'm glad to hear that he might feather out in the end.  I was afraid there might be something wrong with him...he is my favorite.  Thank you soooo much for all the information. I really appreciate your input.  I will post more pics of him when he gets full grown, he sure is handsome IMHO!