most likely the white you got from Cy is a rec. cream pyle actually. Cy calls them white. I never noticed the faint tell tell signs til Toni told me.
They will have very very faint salmon breast, it's most visible on my hen from him, the rooster doesnt show much color at all.
Knowing that, plus what you got off the chicks, yes he should be dominate white.
With dominate white, the first cross will always be all white, yes now if you take that cockerle back to a black again, you should get a 50-50 ratio of black and white chicks.
The whites you got from me are recessive whites, most are over silver duckwing, some over birchen.
Might want to use one of those roos over the black hen too, all should be black then.
As for breeding down, yes it should slowly get you there. Best to use a bantam hen for faster results from what I've found. BUT, I did this too this year with some of Toni's LF Schubert blacks.
Bred them to Cy's bantam lavenders I have. Had several goals, 1) make bantam blacks, 2) help the lavenders, they still arent perfect, 3) try to help the color on the blacks a bit.
What I got of course was all blacks, very clean too. Size wise, I didnt have any inbetweens, they were either full sized, or they were bantams...which surprised me a bit. So it all depends, you may infact get to bantam quicker than you expect.
I'll be breeding these bantams again this yaer, hoping to get some real nice lavenders back out as type wise these look great now. Also hoping to get a lot more blacks too to continue with my bantam projects. Didnt you get some lavender from CY too? Might want to try them over Toni's black girl if you did.
here's a pic or two of them
Here's one standing next to the lavender bantam to show size comparison
well I got to go re learn how to post pics here now, my old method doesnt work any more
I got some of the males in my photobucket ...just cant figure out how to add them yet??
Edited by Boggy Bottom Bantams - 1/16/12 at 7:36pm