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post #2011 of 2535
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it's just another gentics thing, picking and selecting birds that exhibit the best type for it to start with.

of course great males help. look for spurs or heavy spur bumps on the  hens, use them to get a start, eventually you will get a few. Thing is, usually after the first adult molt, it goes away, it's mainly a pullet feathering.In the end, you are left with a  longer than normal tailed hen, usually with spurs.

 I have heard from several breeders it may be caused by heavy testoserone levels in them. Due to this, I have had some over the years that either dont lay, lay very few, or lay those tiny little dime sized eggs. Most of them I have though lay just fine, and tend to make excellent males.

 

Hen feathered cocks, like in sebrights? That would have to come in from an outcross to a breed that had that set of genes, then back breed the chicks, some should come out then. Then to fix type you'd have to repeat the process to the breed of choice using the new 50% pure project birds. So on and so on. Never messed with hen feathering, kinda defeats the purpose in long tails, so I'm not sure how it would breed out, recessive or dominate. I feel confident it would be recessive, though not sure.

If it is a dominate trait, it would be a little easier though.

I actually bred one of my phoenix hens to a BB Red Hen Feathered Cock...
The Cockerel that was produced came out more so ginger with black speckles.... Almost like a sebright
It defeated the purpose of long feathered birds. His primary tail feathers were long, but he lacked saddles. So I culled him.

post #2012 of 2535
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I actually bred one of my phoenix hens to a BB Red Hen Feathered Cock...
The Cockerel that was produced came out more so ginger with black speckles.... Almost like a sebright
It defeated the purpose of long feathered birds. His primary tail feathers were long, but he lacked saddles. So I culled him.

 

post #2013 of 2535

that's pretty cool in a way.

Looks like a hint of gold lace in the tail

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post #2014 of 2535
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Looks like a golden transverse penciled to me.. Duckwing base with ginger and pattern gene.. Would of been a keeper for color reasons..

https://sites.google.com/site/stewartlongtails/home

Actively breeding yokohamas, percentage onagadori phoenix,  ohiki, blue red malays, blue and black phoenix, splash red phoenix, millie fleur phoenix, blue millie yokohamas, laced yokohamas,  penciled yokohamas, chocolate phoenix, black yokohamas, crele ohiki, yellow cuckoo ohiki, and barred and mottled phoenix

 

 

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https://sites.google.com/site/stewartlongtails/home

Actively breeding yokohamas, percentage onagadori phoenix,  ohiki, blue red malays, blue and black phoenix, splash red phoenix, millie fleur phoenix, blue millie yokohamas, laced yokohamas,  penciled yokohamas, chocolate phoenix, black yokohamas, crele ohiki, yellow cuckoo ohiki, and barred and mottled phoenix

 

 

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post #2015 of 2535

I have several silver ginger pheonix cockerels if anyone is interested in working with that color..

The birds are molting, but wanted to post some pics of the odd colors..

This one is a dun gold ginger phoenix

blue red ginger cockerel.. Probably won't keep him either

splash cream ginger cockerel

yellow leg blue gold rooster.. and a bunch of blue silvers..

blue silver phoenix cockerel..

blue silver/cream phoenix cockerel..

https://sites.google.com/site/stewartlongtails/home

Actively breeding yokohamas, percentage onagadori phoenix,  ohiki, blue red malays, blue and black phoenix, splash red phoenix, millie fleur phoenix, blue millie yokohamas, laced yokohamas,  penciled yokohamas, chocolate phoenix, black yokohamas, crele ohiki, yellow cuckoo ohiki, and barred and mottled phoenix

 

 

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https://sites.google.com/site/stewartlongtails/home

Actively breeding yokohamas, percentage onagadori phoenix,  ohiki, blue red malays, blue and black phoenix, splash red phoenix, millie fleur phoenix, blue millie yokohamas, laced yokohamas,  penciled yokohamas, chocolate phoenix, black yokohamas, crele ohiki, yellow cuckoo ohiki, and barred and mottled phoenix

 

 

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post #2016 of 2535

millie phoenix project cockerel and brown red american longtail cockerel

https://sites.google.com/site/stewartlongtails/home

Actively breeding yokohamas, percentage onagadori phoenix,  ohiki, blue red malays, blue and black phoenix, splash red phoenix, millie fleur phoenix, blue millie yokohamas, laced yokohamas,  penciled yokohamas, chocolate phoenix, black yokohamas, crele ohiki, yellow cuckoo ohiki, and barred and mottled phoenix

 

 

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https://sites.google.com/site/stewartlongtails/home

Actively breeding yokohamas, percentage onagadori phoenix,  ohiki, blue red malays, blue and black phoenix, splash red phoenix, millie fleur phoenix, blue millie yokohamas, laced yokohamas,  penciled yokohamas, chocolate phoenix, black yokohamas, crele ohiki, yellow cuckoo ohiki, and barred and mottled phoenix

 

 

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post #2017 of 2535

red ginger American Longtail pullet

golden dun american longtail (molting sorry, these are just for color reference).. split to mottling.

Totenko.. Yellow leg phoenix cockerel. LOL>

khaki phoenix cockerels

More american Longtails.. Some blues

splash red phoenix hen

White American Longtail cockerel

https://sites.google.com/site/stewartlongtails/home

Actively breeding yokohamas, percentage onagadori phoenix,  ohiki, blue red malays, blue and black phoenix, splash red phoenix, millie fleur phoenix, blue millie yokohamas, laced yokohamas,  penciled yokohamas, chocolate phoenix, black yokohamas, crele ohiki, yellow cuckoo ohiki, and barred and mottled phoenix

 

 

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https://sites.google.com/site/stewartlongtails/home

Actively breeding yokohamas, percentage onagadori phoenix,  ohiki, blue red malays, blue and black phoenix, splash red phoenix, millie fleur phoenix, blue millie yokohamas, laced yokohamas,  penciled yokohamas, chocolate phoenix, black yokohamas, crele ohiki, yellow cuckoo ohiki, and barred and mottled phoenix

 

 

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post #2018 of 2535

Melanized Mottled Red Ginger (dom white) American Longtails (aka red shouldered ) project birds.. And crele phoenix pullet

https://sites.google.com/site/stewartlongtails/home

Actively breeding yokohamas, percentage onagadori phoenix,  ohiki, blue red malays, blue and black phoenix, splash red phoenix, millie fleur phoenix, blue millie yokohamas, laced yokohamas,  penciled yokohamas, chocolate phoenix, black yokohamas, crele ohiki, yellow cuckoo ohiki, and barred and mottled phoenix

 

 

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https://sites.google.com/site/stewartlongtails/home

Actively breeding yokohamas, percentage onagadori phoenix,  ohiki, blue red malays, blue and black phoenix, splash red phoenix, millie fleur phoenix, blue millie yokohamas, laced yokohamas,  penciled yokohamas, chocolate phoenix, black yokohamas, crele ohiki, yellow cuckoo ohiki, and barred and mottled phoenix

 

 

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post #2019 of 2535

Hahaha nice birds Amanda!
"Totenko" Hahah I like that 

My main focus right now is BB Reds

post #2020 of 2535

Dou, if I get a sec this week end I'm gonna take a pic of one of the silver Ismer hens I got from Toni-Marie for you since you like the cock feathered girls. Was looking at her today and thought of you. Figured you'd like to see her. She's one of the very few I've had or seen that kept the long tail. Hope I get a minute to do it

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